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post #1 of 25 Old 06-02-2012, 11:05 PM Thread Starter
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Dust seals

Hey everyone, I sold my 02 forks to PDX_Luda in an effort to try and help him out. Unbeknownst to both of us, one of the forks left a wet spot when compressed after the deal was said and done. I know the forks worked great when I swapped them out for the F4i forks and the stockers were stored for over a year.

My question is: could the dust seal have gone bad from lack of use? Is it the dust seal itself that needs to be replaced? Is it possible to clean out the seal to see if something is letting the oil past the seal? is it possible the oil is bad and has turned to crap which in effect is able to seep past the dust seal? What about the other fork?

If the dust seal itself needs to be replaced, is it worthwhile to just replace the seal itself or is a full rebuild needed? PDX_Luda bought my forks in an attempt to avoid having to rebuild his. if its just the dust seal then I'd like to cover the dust seal and get it installed so he doesn't have to rebuild his forks.

The other option of course that I offered him was a full refund and he rebuild his forks which defeats the purpose in the first place

any thoughts or comments?

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post #2 of 25 Old 06-02-2012, 11:13 PM
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PDX_Luda bought my forks in an attempt to avoid having to rebuild his...
Sorta...

Locally was $135 (seals, fluid and labor) vs. $100 for a used set... would have saved a cpl $ towards either an adjustable set (04+ or F4i) or the inverted upgrade.

I guess my real concern is if I can hand compress them, what will happen when I go from 100mph to nothing, blown (leaky) is blown I'm thinking.

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Ah crap, guess I misunderstood you on the pricing. Thought it was $135 per fork and had to be rebuilt due to riding with the seals blown for so long there were internal damage. If its $135 for both, then its a no brainer for me. I'll just not take the $$ and that way you can get your forks rebuilt.

Sorry dude, I tried to help. We'll figure out how to get the forks back and what not. Looks like that settles it, which is a bummer since it was a waste of time for the both of us At least we got to finally meet and what not. Keep me posted and we'll get it all figured out.

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No worries man, I did/do appreciate it!

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Too bad it didn't work out, but big props to PV for making things right. I heard a trick on another forum was to wrap a piece of 35mm film round the fork and slip it under the seal. That may clean of any debris that may be preventing a good seal.

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"SEAL MATE" it's a fork seal cleaning tool. A co-worker made one out of the flat side of a plastic orange juice container. Worked like a charm1!

Seal Mate the Tool that Fixes Leaking Fork Seals - YouTube

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"SEAL MATE" it's a fork seal cleaning tool. A co-worker made one out of the flat side of a plastic orange juice container. Worked like a charm1!

Seal Mate the Tool that Fixes Leaking Fork Seals - YouTube
Very slick. I like the hook part of it to pull the dirt out.

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that's great helimech! i'll have to see if i can find that thing.

thanks marylandmike! that's also a great idea!

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that's great helimech! i'll have to see if i can find that thing.

thanks marylandmike! that's also a great idea!
Yupper's... def added to my task list for 2day!

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Just make one. This thread has a printable pdf, just print/trace/cut and enjoy!

http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/forum1/119728.html

Although u gotta join a goldwing forum to get it. =p

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Just make one. This thread has a printable pdf, just print/trace/cut and enjoy!

Homemade Sealmate - fork seal repair tool - Goldwing Technical Forum - Forums - Steve Saunders Goldwing Forums

Although u gotta join a goldwing forum to get it. =p
"print screen" feature plus several cut/pastes from word to PP gave me a real life template I just made!

BELIEVE IT or not, that did the fuckin' trick! Leak appears to have vanished!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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thats awesome luda! post up the file of the "real life template"!

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NICE!! That's a cheap and easy win, helps offset the busted head stud at least.

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thats awesome luda! post up the file of the "real life template"!
Will do, later though... still got a big fish 2 fry!

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DIY Seal cleaner (full size - print, xfer, and cut)

Bout the only non-obvious thing was that I used a kitty litter container outta the neighbors trash... slimmed the thickness down a ways using the side of a fine bench grinder wheel.

It work's for sure, 1st hand knowledge.

http://www.filehosting.org/file/deta...al_cleaner.pdf

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Excellent. Love it when a plan comes together.

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Bout the only non-obvious thing was that I used a kitty litter container outta the neighbors trash... slimmed the thickness down a ways using the side of a fine bench grinder wheel.

It work's for sure, 1st hand knowledge.

filehosting.org - download page for DIY_Seal_cleaner.pdf
that's awesome! great work Luda this needs to get put into the dropbox asap!

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that's awesome! great work Luda this needs to get put into the dropbox asap!
Yeah no doubt. This probably would have saved me from having to install seals on my dirtbikes at least once or twice back in the day.

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My right fork started leaking last week, and in preference to tearing them down (never do just one) I tried the cleaning procedure outlined above using a piece of soda bottle shaped appropriately without expecting it to work. This is one case where I was glad to be wrong! It worked like a charm and only took about 10 minutes.

My advice is to try this before spending a bundle having the seals replaced at a dealership or doing it yourself.

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Add me to the list of people this has worked for. I didn't think it would work. A couple of months ago I rebuilt my forks. New seals. Almost immediately I noticed the left fork tube was "wet" after every ride. Sort of got worse over time with some drops of oil now running off dust seal. Thinking I was going to have to tear fork down, I gave this method a go. I used a drink bottle. Cleaned the seal. No more leaks. Thanks wrist twisters.
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