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Hate to ask THIS question...but here goes. Just got a new oil filter for the 00 RC at the dealer....a black one....instead of the previous blue one....and it's about 1/2" shorter too.
What's up with that? He assured me it was the right one even though it looked different. Fit's fine, doesn't leak.
I thought I heard it making a ticking noise
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post #2 of 39 Old 11-17-2008, 01:19 PM
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Sorry I don't have any useful advice to offer.
Just wanted you to know I'm not laughing.






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If I was a betting guy, Id say the blue one is an aftermarket filter and the black is OEM -

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Hate to ask THIS question...but here goes. Just got a new oil filter for the 00 RC at the dealer....a black one....instead of the previous blue one....and it's about 1/2" shorter too.
What's up with that? He assured me it was the right one even though it looked different. Fit's fine, doesn't leak.
I thought I heard it making a ticking noise
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Sheeeeeesh, everyone knows the new black one reflects the sunlight and helps take heat off the screeen and instrument panel so that they don't melt....C'mon Johnnie get with the program!




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The RC51, 919, and a slew of other Honda's share the same filter. The P/N is 15410-MCJ-000 or 15410-MCJ-003(newer one). They have always been black, not sure where your gehi blue one came from!

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Every dealer filter I ever bought for all of my Honda's was black and they are kinda short...If that helps any


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Filters come in different lengths. http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterXRef.html Scroll down about 90% of the way and you will see where you can get the same filters in different lengths. This site recommends the longer filter. I'm guessing it's because you will have more filter material for longer life. I use the blue Purolator on my 919 and just paint in black since it is visible.

This filter fits both the 919 and RC51. Purolator Pure One PL14612. It's what I use.

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Blue is higher performance HRC model, you'll pay extra.

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The old black vs. blue filter thread. This is a blast from the past.

Both filters will work just fine.

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I use the Purolator filters from Advanced Auto Parts. They're usually blue, but this time around it was a fugly gold color & it had the no-slip surface, so it looked like it was lined with gold velvet... HIDEOUS!!

I masked over the label & taped off the open end & hit it with flat black spraypaint.

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what about using the fram one the ph6017a... i was interested to find out the 919 uses the same filter as a kawa zx-6



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I use the Purolator Pure One PL14612 as well due to the greater filter area, it's ability to stop marginally smaller particles, the fact that it costs $6.75 at Pep Boys, but primarily because it's not just blue -- it's metalflake blue! How ghei is this?

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i have been using the k&n #204 and i pay bout 13 bucks a pop... i wasnt sure if the fram's and the purolators were good enought to get the job done..



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So, you're saying I should probably stop using recycled steel wool, rubber bands and an old soup can then?

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Just did an oil change on my 05 RC and used the purolator 14610 and it is a goldish/tan color with a nonslip coating.

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So, you're saying I should probably stop using recycled steel wool, rubber bands and an old soup can then?
na, your good to go. as for what filter to use, i go with the K&N. if you ride like most of us probly do, you need all the protection you can get.

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Honda consolidated the entire filter line. There's basically one filter for most sportbikes now. It's shorter than a lot of the older ones.

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JohnnyB, pay no attention to the Infidels, they fear what they don't know...

HondaJim is right though, Honda has done away with a lot of the different oil filters and our beloved RC51'00-01 "MT7" Blue filter is no longer in the line-up. As long as you got the MCJ, you'll be alright.

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I use the Purolator filters from Advanced Auto Parts. They're usually blue, but this time around it was a fugly gold color & it had the no-slip surface, so it looked like it was lined with gold velvet... HIDEOUS!!

I masked over the label & taped off the open end & hit it with flat black spraypaint.

Same (PL-14610), and I just picked up a couple and they are UGLY now. I peeled the label off and hit it with some satin black.

Also use the same filter in my Polaris Sportsman as well.

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Thats a torque-rite filter...they start out blue...turns black when you torque it down hard enough

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I use a K&N filter on my bike and found that the KN-204 and KN-304 both fit. The 304 is what is used on the CBR900RR and has a higher capacity than the Stock 204.

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I use a K&N filter on my bike and found that the KN-204 and KN-304 both fit. The 304 is what is used on the CBR900RR and has a higher capacity than the Stock 204.
more is better... but noone answered about using the fram ones.... is fram worth a shiiit???



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I use the Bosch because it's longer AND bigger around...size does make a diff.

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more is better... but noone answered about using the fram ones.... is fram worth a shiiit???
They're actually supposed to give decent protection and rank right up there with the better ones from what I've read.

Puralator and than Mobil 1's are supposed to give the best filtration.

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give this a read... thanks bryce thats all the info anyone could pretty much wanna know on oil filters..



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I use the Purolator filters from Advanced Auto Parts. They're usually blue, but this time around it was a fugly gold color & it had the no-slip surface, so it looked like it was lined with gold velvet... HIDEOUS!!

I masked over the label & taped off the open end & hit it with flat black spraypaint.
Maybe that gold color would match the gold calipers? Oh wait, you've got that OLD 919 without the gold calipers.

I use the PL14612 too. Just a bit longer than the 14610. I got a bunch when they were under $7.00 for 2-pack at Amazon. Like Rob, I like the metallic flake blue color.

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Why use a filter just mix the oil and gas , you'll be good to go.

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Hate to ask THIS question...but here goes. Just got a new oil filter for the 00 RC at the dealer....a black one....instead of the previous blue one....and it's about 1/2" shorter too.
What's up with that? He assured me it was the right one even though it looked different. Fit's fine, doesn't leak.
I thought I heard it making a ticking noise
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I'm running the black one on my '02(yes I know a lot changed in 02). I know that it shares the same as the Goldwing. That's as far as my knowledge goes. Never saw a blue one before but I remember a 950 page thread on it at MR.

My RC is running hot and the right headlight goes out when I go to low beam. Anyone else see this?? My bike also idles different than my 600rr. Ideas?? Oh, MR... how I hated the idiots you harboured.

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My RC is running hot and the right headlight goes out when I go to low beam. Anyone else see this?? My bike also idles different than my 600rr. Ideas?? Oh, MR... how I hated the idiots you harboured.
Ahhhhhh... fun days weren't they?

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Ok... I was able to sift out what appears to be the real info in all those posts

Yep...the counter guy at the dealership mumbled something about lots of bikes now using the same filter now and something like "it looks different but it's still the right one". But I was distracted by something shiny, or was stoned, or drunk, or something so I didn't pay much attention.

My old filter was the longer BLUE one.....might give you RC owners an idea how much I ride the bike and when that last time I changed the oil was

Thanks for the info, advice, and options
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I'm running the black one on my '02(yes I know a lot changed in 02). I know that it shares the same as the Goldwing. That's as far as my knowledge goes. Never saw a blue one before but I remember a 950 page thread on it at MR.

My RC is running hot and the right headlight goes out when I go to low beam. Anyone else see this?? My bike also idles different than my 600rr. Ideas?? Oh, MR... how I hated the idiots you harboured.

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PL 14610

The Puralator PL14610 is the longer filter of the two. It barely will start screwing on. I installed one on my 919 about 2 hours ago. The color scheme now is Gold textured finish is the PL1460 and blue is P14610 with less filtering material and plain smooth paint. The PL 14612 is the shorter of the two.

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You need the bigger blue one considering you are pulling a sidecar...

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Technically a sidecar is pushed..... kinda like what I do to your stool...bwahhahahahah!

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Technically a sidecar is pushed..... kinda like what I do to your stool...bwahhahahahah!

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People have freaked out when they saw my bluey, "that's a marine filter"!

The 00 motor can see a higher oil flow to the filter at high rpm than the 01/02 motor. Honda changed the internal oil pressure relief valve inside the engine in 01. The purpose of the valve inside the oil filter is to open in case the filter becomes clogged allowing oil to bypass the filter media. All engines are rated at 63 psi at 5000 rpm at the filter. The black filter works on the 00 motor. At sustained high rpm's, such as on the race track the black filter may bypass some oil. This will not harm the engine. All filters with bypass valves will bypass some oil under certain conditions such as start up in very cold weather. The internal engine bypass valve can open under certain conditions completly bypassing the oil filer.
The net is if you have blue filters available run the blue filter on the 00 engine, black filters on 01-03.

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Technically a sidecar is pushed..... kinda like what I do to your stool...bwahhahahahah!

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Your twig doesn't push anything... shorty...

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