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Confused about chain lube, Honda 919. What to use?

This is my first bike with a chain, so im new to this.

The manual states i should use a SAE80 or SAE90 gear lube.

I cannot seem to find this stuff anywhere. Only SAE30 and 80W-90 (is this the same?) gear oils.

What do you guys recommend?

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there are a million and one kinds of chain lube, but 80-90 wt is both 80 and 90 wt. It works. Most people will tell you to use a spray lube that you can buy at almost any motorcycle shop. Give them a few min, and someone will start posting up! Basically if there's some kind of lube on it, it should be good! I like Bell Ray, but my new favorite is:

DuPont Teflon Chain Lube - webBikeWorld



I actually just installed the Loobman and I use 80-90 wt in it.
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get you a nice can of repsol chain lube....


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how are you liking the loobman?

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what's this "spellcheck" thing you talk about"?

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that just sounds like a line from a stoner porn movie...
true that... especially with the misspelling

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I use Honda HP4 20-50 just because I had it laying around and don't run it in anything I have now. It was for an old air cooled Yamaha I used to have. 12k on the chain and it's still going strong. I don't think it matters so much which lube as it does that you lube regularly.

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what's this "spellcheck" thing you talk about"?
It's not misspelled BTW, or, rather, I didn't misspell it, here's the link again, since you may have missed it.

LOOBMAN

It's British, they spell things differently, like the random U in colour or armour, and the odd Y in tyres, or kerb instead of curb... who knows.

How am I liking it? I don't know yet. I only used it once, since I only got the bars on last weekend, and I installed it at the same time... and now I have to move this weekend. With any luck I'll get some miles on it soon...

As far as it working, it puts oil on the sprocket, and the chain had oil on it when I got back from my little test ride, so far so good. I'll let you know when I have a little more info.

It is a funny sounding name though, I'll grant you that. It even comes with a little sticker to put somewhere on your bike... I'm not much of a sticker guy though.

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I used to use PJ1 Blue and even after wiping off excess it would fling around a little bit. Now I use Repsol lube (Greenish/Teal can) and it is quite and doesn't fling. But like mentioned above almost anything for sale at a motorcycle shop should suffice.

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i use some stuff i picked up at the airport that is for cables and chains on airplanes......



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Maxima chain wax

Have used it for years - it sticks and doesn't fling off much
It will not harm o-rings or x-rings either. IMO it penetrates the roller pins better than gear or motor oil

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Have used it for years - it sticks and doesn't fling off much
It will not harm o-rings or x-rings either. IMO it penetrates the roller pins better than gear or motor oil
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yeah chain WAX is the way to go, forget the lube...its just too messy Wax will stick on the chain and last longer rather than slinging all over the rest of the bike

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Any good brand chain wax is the way to go.
Spray it on the night before and let it set up.
Most say you only have to re-apply after riding in the rain or washing the bike.
Plus no slinging grease all over the back wheel and chain guard.

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there are a million and one kinds of chain lube, but 80-90 wt is both 80 and 90 wt. It works. Most people will tell you to use a spray lube that you can buy at almost any motorcycle shop. Give them a few min, and someone will start posting up! Basically if there's some kind of lube on it, it should be good! I like Bell Ray, but my new favorite is:

DuPont Teflon Chain Lube - webBikeWorld



I actually just installed the Loobman and I use 80-90 wt in it.
-Adamjayp
+1 on the Dupont. I use it as a cleaner and lube. Soak the chain good with it, wipe it off with a rag, then spray a lighter coating and your done.
I have chrome wire spoke wheel on my Bonny, so I HATE fling. This stuff fits the bill. Fresh coat every 300 miles or so - takes all of 10 minutes.

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I live down a gravel road and race ATVs. used to ponie the money for the fancy stuff but find a good heavy gear oil works best. My chains have lasted longer sinvce I stopped using all the fancy stuff bike shops sell you.

Go into a good parts store like NAPA and pick up the highest weight gear lube thats still an oil that has the least gap between weight and winter weight

such as 120w140. I actually use the same stuff that's in my off road truck diff straight 180 wieght made by shell. It's a synthetic but it comes as a regular oil also I just have a a couple gallons in the garage for the ZR2. ( Diffs get hot tearin up the dirt and sand)It runs like STP oil additive so if you take it slow for a bit it doesn't sling all around.

Do not use STP oil additive by the way it is primarily polymer additives that do not do well for long term lubricity it is meant to change the characteristics of the oil. Primarily make it heavier.It does make a good foam oil though since it's got a lot of tack.

Just my experience guys take it or leave it.

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there are a million and one kinds of chain lube, but 80-90 wt is both 80 and 90 wt. It works. Most people will tell you to use a spray lube that you can buy at almost any motorcycle shop. Give them a few min, and someone will start posting up! Basically if there's some kind of lube on it, it should be good! I like Bell Ray, but my new favorite is:

DuPont Teflon Chain Lube - webBikeWorld



I actually just installed the Loobman and I use 80-90 wt in it.
-Adamjayp
+1 on the DuPont!!

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get you a nice can of repsol chain lube....
+1 for the Repsol ... but if you do decide to stick with some form of chain wax instead of gear oil, don't forget to go for about a 15 minute or so ride to get your chain a lil warm so the wax will soak into the links and stay on good ... whichever you pick, just don't forget about your chain ... it sucks to get stuck somewhere with a popped chain ... happened to me on my dirtbike once wayyyyyy out in the woods .... sux really bad .... reallllly long walk back

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First thing, read the Post on Chain Cleaning and do not use this method...then read the post from other members....all good information.

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just like what brand of motor oil to use...really dont matter..just use any motorcycle chain spray

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just like what brand of motor oil to use...really dont matter..just use any motorcycle chain spray
thanks for the neg rep point there buddy who ever you are lol point is really dont matter chain lube you use lets face it they all work..point is use something...same with oil everyone has there favorites as long as the weight is right and its not energy conservation it dont matter they all work honda says any sae oil...that just about covers everything...use a major brand for 300 a qt or 8 a quart dont make one bit of difference

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It's not misspelled BTW, or, rather, I didn't misspell it, here's the link again, since you may have missed it.

LOOBMAN

It's British, they spell things differently, like the random U in colour or armour, and the odd Y in tyres, or kerb instead of curb... who knows.

How am I liking it? I don't know yet. I only used it once, since I only got the bars on last weekend, and I installed it at the same time... and now I have to move this weekend. With any luck I'll get some miles on it soon...

As far as it working, it puts oil on the sprocket, and the chain had oil on it when I got back from my little test ride, so far so good. I'll let you know when I have a little more info.

It is a funny sounding name though, I'll grant you that. It even comes with a little sticker to put somewhere on your bike... I'm not much of a sticker guy though.

-Adamjayp
I installed on on my 919 way back when and really liked it, it worked great.

Squeeze the bottle at every fill up, chains lasted forever and rarely needed adjustment, it rocked.

Now, for the other side of the coin - it was a challenge to get it set up properly, but that challenge was also fun, in a way.

For the money, the loobman rocks. Oils both sides of the chain too - and oh so easy to use.


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I use O'ring conditioner and nothing else. And, this has been good enough that the chain on my ZX10 just made it to the 10,000 mile mark looking good (and, that bike isn't known for being easy on chains). By the way, it isn't a stock chain, but a DD (I think).

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1 chain lube for me. Bel-ray super chain wax.
One off the shelf chain cleaner for me.
Motorex 611 chain cleaner and a brush.

Game over, clean with 611. Put a rag under the chain, cause grease will fall off like oil from a freshly fried chicken wing.

On a hot chain, apply bel ray chain wax along the rollers and stuff. Then you're done. Clean and wipe away any excess.

Please do not lube or clean chain with the bike in gear and running and be the next genius to chop off your finger tips.

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