clutch replacement - Wrist Twisters
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 23 Old 03-07-2009, 04:29 PM Thread Starter
Chuck Norris has lost in battle with this Member
 
Pacojerte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: ft lauderdale fl
Posts: 12,874
Blog Entries: 1
Rep Power: 1
 

Awards Showcase
Donation Donation 
Total Awards: 2

clutch replacement

ok here is the pressing question...

i want to know what all is involved in replacing the clutches in a 919... i also would like to replace the springs with heavier duty ones...

i am not having clutch problems...
i do not need to replace them
i have 6000 miles on the bike...

i am only thinking of doing this to make it absolutely bullet proof.....

i would want the heaviest duty/strongest....

soooo... what are the suggestions and the difficulty level of the replacement... (i have a high/very high level of aptitude)



Pacojerte is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 23 Old 03-07-2009, 05:15 PM
LIVE FOR THE PROCESS
 
Nesty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: CBus!
Posts: 653
Rep Power: 1
 

Awards Showcase
Donation 
Total Awards: 1

Quote:
Originally Posted by barton664 View Post
(i have a high/very high level of aptitude)
From the manual, looks like the biggest impediments are specialty tools you may need (centering, driver, etc) which show up in a couple of spots, and then just the manipulation of the clutch packs. And then, of course, is the typical STUFF I DID NOT RECOGNIZE IN THE MANUAL AS BEING A SHOW-STOPPING PAIN IN THE ASS.

Nesty is offline  
post #3 of 23 Old 03-07-2009, 05:33 PM
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,563
Rep Power: 0
 

Awards Showcase
Trackday Recognition Veteran 
Total Awards: 2

Quit messin' with the bike and just ride it...


Sokali is offline  
 
post #4 of 23 Old 03-07-2009, 05:37 PM Thread Starter
Chuck Norris has lost in battle with this Member
 
Pacojerte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: ft lauderdale fl
Posts: 12,874
Blog Entries: 1
Rep Power: 1
 

Awards Showcase
Donation Donation 
Total Awards: 2

i am serious... really i want to put in a heavy duty maybe kevlar or carbon fiber clutch... with heavy or xtra heavy springs....



Pacojerte is offline  
post #5 of 23 Old 03-07-2009, 05:39 PM
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,563
Rep Power: 0
 

Awards Showcase
Trackday Recognition Veteran 
Total Awards: 2

For why?

Sokali is offline  
post #6 of 23 Old 03-07-2009, 05:41 PM
I am BATMAN!!!
 
justintyme73's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Ft. Collins CO
Posts: 4,660
Rep Power: 1
 

Awards Showcase
Outstanding Restoration Donation Donation 
Total Awards: 3

I think at the most you prob would need to upgrade the clutch springs, the guy selling that supercharger kit for the VFR includes them with his kit and keeps the rest of the stock components, and that thing is putting down close to 160 at the wheel. But I could be wrong.........

"He was a wise man who invented Beer"--Plato
justintyme73 is offline  
post #7 of 23 Old 03-07-2009, 05:43 PM Thread Starter
Chuck Norris has lost in battle with this Member
 
Pacojerte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: ft lauderdale fl
Posts: 12,874
Blog Entries: 1
Rep Power: 1
 

Awards Showcase
Donation Donation 
Total Awards: 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sokali View Post
For why?
because......

its relatively cheap.....(under 100 bucks)

and i want it to be bullet proof.......



Pacojerte is offline  
post #8 of 23 Old 03-07-2009, 05:46 PM
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,563
Rep Power: 0
 

Awards Showcase
Trackday Recognition Veteran 
Total Awards: 2

OK. If you think you need to. Remember it's a Honda...


Sokali is offline  
post #9 of 23 Old 03-08-2009, 09:03 AM
Pilus Posterior
 
3dcycle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: St Johnsbury
Posts: 2,026
Rep Power: 1
 

Awards Showcase
Donation Outstanding Restoration Outstanding Restoration Outstanding Restoration 
Total Awards: 5

i have not done a clutch on a 919 before but plenty of other sport bikes it is not a problem. pick yourself a small peice of soft aluminum(4in long by 1in wide and 1/8in think) and wedge it between gears to torque it. or use a impact wrench to torque it.

the aluminum strip is a actual tool sent out by honda to "update" the clutches on the TRX450ERs and works really good. only good for a limited number of uses cause i gets all mashed up.

3dcycle is offline  
post #10 of 23 Old 03-08-2009, 09:42 AM
Tirone shoelaces
 
TexasTraffic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Central Texas
Posts: 744
Rep Power: 1
 
How reliable/durable is the OEM clutch on the 919?

I'm guessing the engine is over-engineered for 919 purposes - it was originally designed for CBR900RR purposes that had higher HP and RPM specs.

TexasTraffic is offline  
post #11 of 23 Old 03-08-2009, 10:09 AM
orange
 
sbeau1960's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 9,193
Rep Power: 1
 

Awards Showcase
Wrist Twisters Event Attendance Wrist Twisters Event Attendance Donation Community Service 
Total Awards: 6

Dude, toast the stock clutch first before even considering replacing it!

Now my Toyota 4x4...it NEEDS a clutch!

Superduke
R1200GS
XR650L
sbeau1960 is offline  
post #12 of 23 Old 03-08-2009, 01:14 PM Thread Starter
Chuck Norris has lost in battle with this Member
 
Pacojerte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: ft lauderdale fl
Posts: 12,874
Blog Entries: 1
Rep Power: 1
 

Awards Showcase
Donation Donation 
Total Awards: 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by sbeau1960 View Post
Dude, toast the stock clutch first before even considering replacing it!
i am thinking about just the heavy duty springs... i really don't wanna toast it... i prefer to beef it up now instead of later...



Pacojerte is offline  
post #13 of 23 Old 05-11-2010, 10:02 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: londan
Posts: 2
Rep Power: 0
 
^ I am 100% sure this is the issue with pressure plate/Clutch bearing and i am pretty sure i am right. The mountings will make noise when engine is idling once moving on plain road mountings rarely make any noise until you have a bad stretch of road or you are accelerating / deaccelerating rapidly . Also you must be feeling the clutch is not smooth .It is like heavy feel on the clutch pedal .

I do not know about wagonR but in M800 there is this thing (on Gearbox)on which clutch cable is mounted .Locally mechanics call it the jhanda/flag.Over a period of time it wears out and needs to be replaced .It makes a big difference in the feel of the clutch .I had it replaced at 1,00,000 kms on our M800 .
===========
Chairs

winner2010 is offline  
post #14 of 23 Old 05-11-2010, 10:11 PM
What's a 919?
 
RoboStraub 919's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Lexington
Posts: 683
Rep Power: 1
 

Awards Showcase
Wrist Twisters Event Attendance Veteran 
Total Awards: 2

I haven't replaced the clutch on my 919, but replaced them on my old 1980 CB900. I'm telling you, I bought regular springs and only replaced 3 out of the 6 and that clutch was stiff as shit for a more than 1k miles. I don't know what the modern CB919 s like, but if you're looking for ultra heavy duty springs, you might want to start exercising your forearms now.

I'm interested in how this goes though as my 919 has 26k on what is more than likely the original clutch and I'll be looking to replace mine in another season or two.

Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
RoboStraub 919 is offline  
post #15 of 23 Old 05-12-2010, 06:15 AM
Burn-em Upus Asphaltus
 
rickard919's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 3,802
Rep Power: 1
 

Awards Showcase
Donation 
Total Awards: 1

^^^ You have a long way to go before wearing out that OEM clutch. Trust me.

Spoiler:

rickard919 is offline  
post #16 of 23 Old 05-12-2010, 10:12 AM
Le So Cal Troll
 
nd4spdbh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: So Cal
Posts: 5,766
Rep Power: 1
 
ya op dont even worry about doing anything with the clutch... it grabs plenty hard ... hell someone on these forums had 77k miles on his stock clutch when he finally put his 919 out to pasture.

nd4spdbh is offline  
post #17 of 23 Old 05-12-2010, 10:16 AM
Honda Addict
 
razorbike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Little Rock, AR
Posts: 828
Rep Power: 1
 
Hasn't Bucky been running a stock clutch at the strip for quite a while?

From all the testimonials I've read the stock clutch is already pretty much bulletproof like the rest of the motor.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

If'n it were me, I'd spend the $ on some other mod.

It's a fool who looks for logic in the chambers of the human heart.
razorbike is offline  
post #18 of 23 Old 05-12-2010, 11:43 AM
Le So Cal Troll
 
nd4spdbh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: So Cal
Posts: 5,766
Rep Power: 1
 
i think bucky might of just replaced it.... but his got ABUSED with constant drag strip use, hard launches and NOS if im not mistaken..... and i think i remember him saying going right for the OEM clutch to replace the original one.

nd4spdbh is offline  
post #19 of 23 Old 05-12-2010, 05:43 PM
Burn-em Upus Asphaltus
 
rickard919's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 3,802
Rep Power: 1
 

Awards Showcase
Donation 
Total Awards: 1

Quote:
Originally Posted by nd4spdbh View Post
ya op dont even worry about doing anything with the clutch... it grabs plenty hard ... hell someone on these forums had 77k miles on his stock clutch when he finally put his 919 out to pasture.
Yeah I am about 135K kms, whatever that is in miles. Still the original clutch.

Spoiler:

rickard919 is offline  
post #20 of 23 Old 06-17-2010, 03:58 PM
Milites Gregarius
 
Tiger1050's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Clermont
Posts: 104
Rep Power: 1
 

Awards Showcase
Wrist Twisters Event Attendance 
Total Awards: 1

You might consider just replacing half of them and give that a try.

If you replace them one at time you can forget about all of the extra steps taking the clutch apart. Just a thought.

Tiger1050 is offline  
post #21 of 23 Old 06-17-2010, 05:04 PM
Gets censored
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: FL
Posts: 1,839
Rep Power: 1
 
He's F'n with you guys.... Gotta be

If I'm mistaken (I may be I haven't been wrong yet this year and I'm due) try some barnett springs. I put some in a gsx-r way back. It was real stiff, ended up puttng 3 barnetts and 3 stockers felt good then. But thats before I relized there's no need for them on a stockish application.

brian is offline  
post #22 of 23 Old 06-17-2010, 05:44 PM
Pilus Posterior
 
AllanB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 2,101
Blog Entries: 1
Rep Power: 1
 
Leave it alone, the OEM one is more than capable of coping with anything you throw at it under normal use. Spend the money on fresh oil instead.


Or send ME the $100 to my Paypal account and I'll post you a autographed picture of me wearing nothing but my motorcycle helmet.

now that's good value!

AllanB is offline  
post #23 of 23 Old 06-17-2010, 06:10 PM
rmb
Let's go!
 
rmb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sussex Couty NJ
Posts: 7,647
Rep Power: 1
 

Awards Showcase
Wrist Twisters Event Attendance Wrist Twisters Event Attendance Wrist Twisters Event Attendance Wrist Twisters Event Attendance 
Total Awards: 9

Quote:
Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
Leave it alone, the OEM one is more than capable of coping with anything you throw at it under normal use. Spend the money on fresh oil instead.


Or send ME the $100 to my Paypal account and I'll post you a autographed picture of me wearing nothing but my motorcycle helmet.

now that's good value!
LOL, I needed a good laugh!

rmb is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Wrist Twisters forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome