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Clicking noise; not FI *counter sprocket

I got the bike on the rear stand today prepping for my trip: did an oil change, installed custom LEDs, top case/brackets, with some chain maintenance (since its already up). Normally I do lubing on the side stand... I start rotating the rear wheel to get the cleaner all around and I hear the noise in the first video. I'm thinking sh*t, this can't be good... She shifts perfectly fine. Mind you I ride with earplugs on all the time unless I'm just going to the corner store to grab something. And when I do hear a noise, I just think "FI". Am I royally screwed or what?

The counter sprocket seems to be a tiny bit loose also (2nd video), I've got a torque wrench handy if this needs to be tightened. But I've got a feeling that's not fixing the noise. I'd hate to push my trip back, but it's looking like I have no choice... where do I start?

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Someone else had a similar issue. I can't remember who it was, but I believe it ended up being an easy fix
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chain too tight?

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After doing a little searching around, there's another guy with a 919 and with the same noise on youtube. I did clean A LOT of lube gunk out of that cover when I took it off to inspect the noise and I'm thinking to remove the counter sprocket to clean behind it. The chain seems to be too tight as well, thanks to the dealer that put on my rear tire... 15/16" or 24mm play, manual says 30-40mm. Can a chain that's 6mm tight cause that noise? I checked the alignment by using a tape measure from the frame bolt to the axel bolt and they're spot on.

*ps, I'm 3 hours shy of being up for 24hrs, I really ought to catch some Zs. I may have jumped conclusions too quick, started thinking of scenarios of something being internal.

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When I adjusted my chain, I was really suprised to see how that noise went away when i backed the tension off..... and I didnt think my chain was too tight. If you look hard enough on the sight, you will find someone else had the same problem. It was chain too tight as well.

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My bet is on the chain being too tight. You can check the CS sprocket torque, but the CS will move a little in the spline shaft, especially if it's an after market sprocket. The stock one had a rubber insert on the back side that seemed to keep it more in place.

I have had that exact noise after adjusting my chain and loosening it a little fixed it.

Good luck and have a great trip.

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I recently had the same problem after cleaning, lubing & adjusting my chain.
It made the exact same noise and I also thought "oh #*%$".
I found that my chain was too tight. I also made sure the rear wheel was aligned properly. After fixing these two easy issues the noise went away.

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When I adjusted my chain, I was really suprised to see how that noise went away when i backed the tension off..... and I didnt think my chain was too tight. If you look hard enough on the sight, you will find someone else had the same problem. It was chain too tight as well.
Exactly. It sounded tight to me right off the bat.

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That other video was me. Chain was to tight. Under the cover was full of junk too and I cleaned that out pretty well. As soon as I back off a quarter turn is was on the loose side of spec and the noise went a way. Looks like in you first video your chain is binding too. Lube the shit out of it and make sure every link has free play.

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I hope a tight chain was your issue. Have a great trip, and take more photos and video than you think we'd ever want to see!
I'm still jealous of the riding you're gonna do, and will be looking forward to the ride report when you get back.

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had the same clicking noise.... chain just a ill too tight was causing it. loosened it a lil and no more clicking.

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Adjusted the chain, went from 7/8" to 1.5" slack and the sound is gone. Man that sounded a lot worse than what it actually was... started thinking countershaft... engine out... split case...

Well, I'm loading her up tonight and I'm off in the morning. Thanks again gentlemen, I'll be sure to take as many pictures as I can.

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Adjusted the chain, went from 7/8" to 1.5" slack and the sound is gone. Man that sounded a lot worse than what it actually was... started thinking countershaft... engine out... split case...

Well, I'm loading her up tonight and I'm off in the morning. Thanks again gentlemen, I'll be sure to take as many pictures as I can.

oh ya 7/8ths is way to little of slop.

i find it best to get it ball parked to the spec that it recommends on the guard... then sit on it and feel the chain and see how much slack it has when im sitting on it with the swingarm more closely to that magical spot where axle, swingarm pivot, and countershaft are all lined up.


btw, i work 9am-5pm fri, 7am - 115pm sat and i want to say again 7am to ~ 2ish on sunday. so i dunno if we will be able to meet up.just lmk, i think you have my number.

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Well, I'm loading her up tonight and I'm off in the morning. Thanks again gentlemen, I'll be sure to take as many pictures as I can.
Have a great trip. I'm envious of you right now. Remember, don't sleep on green grass!

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I have heard many say and I agree that it is better to stay on the "loose" side of the chain tension spec.

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Nd4, I didn't get your number. Shoot me a text or gimme a call (most likely will go to voicemail). I may be able to work in an afternoon ride on Saturday (around 4pm).

Ha, will do Sean. Thanks again, I'd probably be putting this off again waiting for another rider to tag along.

I took it to a local small shop and the owner put it up on a lift ahead of all the other bikes to check the tension. Guess I had it too loose and my alignment was a little off. He put it back to 1.25" slack and re-aligned it. Tried to send me off without charging (talked for quite some time about the trip) but I ended giving a tip/lunch money.

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you got off lucky. This toolbox on the other hand wasn't so lucky....

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Granted that's a rear sprocket, goes to show how doing things wrong, can go bad.

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WTF?!?! HTF?!?!?! I'll just throw my hands up in the air on this one.

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Nd4, I didn't get your number. Shoot me a text or gimme a call (most likely will go to voicemail). I may be able to work in an afternoon ride on Saturday (around 4pm).

Ha, will do Sean. Thanks again, I'd probably be putting this off again waiting for another rider to tag along.

I took it to a local small shop and the owner put it up on a lift ahead of all the other bikes to check the tension. Guess I had it too loose and my alignment was a little off. He put it back to 1.25" slack and re-aligned it. Tried to send me off without charging (talked for quite some time about the trip) but I ended giving a tip/lunch money.
pm'd ya my phone number, feel free to hit me up i swear i dont bite...... too hard.

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you got off lucky. This toolbox on the other hand wasn't so lucky....



Granted that's a rear sprocket, goes to show how doing things wrong, can go bad.
This any better? Not sure why all that damn whitespace is there either :/

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All I see is 4chan.org, lol. They must not allow hotlinking.

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I took out the space. Still need to figure out the image problem. It showed up fine the other day when I looked at it....

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the "CRLF" after the URL is the problem... for some reason it doesn't like all that white space between the end of the url and the beginning of the close image tag. Weaksauce!

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you guys realize 4 chan images are not forever.... ull be lucky to link to them for an hour

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This forum is full of broken images, I don't feel bad for linking to 4chan

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