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i just picked up my 919 a few weeks ago and love it so far. i performed the 16000 mile maintenance but have a few questions. 1) 8k between oil changes? thats what the book says and i use the honda gn4 oil (10w40) but that seems a little extreme. 2) whats the average chain/sprocket life on the 919? i clean the chain and relube with silkolene on the weekends just to make sure that it stays clean and well lubed. Coming from BMWs with shaft drives, the chain thing is kinda new to me as far as longevity goes.
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post #2 of 23 Old 04-12-2012, 10:22 PM
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i typically like to change oil at 3-4k miles... and oil filter every other oil change.

8k is way to extreme IMO. oil is cheap.... i mean if you change it 2x as often as recommended.... in say 100k miles thats an extra 150bucks.... OVER 100k miles!!!!

now if you were using full syn ... maybe 6-8k could be more reasonable.

Chain life all depends on how it was maintained.... i got 18k mi on my bike original chain and ride it like a bat outta hell.... but i keep it clean and lubed all the time it has quite a bit of life left in it... sprockets rnt cupped and chain isnt sloppy.

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thats cool. i dont flog mine too bad. its basically a daily driver for me 9 miles each way to and from work and assorted errands here and there. Last year i put 18k on the beamer and put 2500 on the car, but we can ride 9-10 months out of the year here in TX. I plan on taking some road trips this year tho and just wanna make sure that the bike is one less thing to be concerned about. Thanks for the info. BTW i was thinking about doing the 17 tooth sprocket up front after reading about it on 919.org. Anybody have any real world experience with that?

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My stock chain lasted about 16k. the sprockets were like new still though. I clean my chain every 800 to 1k miles and lube it at about every 300 miles. that maybe overkill to some but I ride it alot and in rain too

I thought the same thing when I saw the recommended oil change interval. I do mine every three thousand. Thinking about starting to change the filter every other but I still change it every time.

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At 60 k, I would say that the 919 was used 50/50 sport vs. touring. I am religious about wiping down the chain with WD 40 and lube at appropriate intervals. It has never been scrubbed or dunked in Kerosene.

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All good info above. Just to add you can use car mobile 1 oil filter available at any local parts store. I don't know the model # of the top of my head but Mobil 1 is excellent quality unit.

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Since I don't put 8k miles on a year I do an oil change once a year.
If you want to see if your oil is still good after 3-4k send it in to black stone labs to have it analyzed.

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8k on modern engines with modern oil (yes even dino) is not extreme. there are many vehicles that call for 4-15k miles between oil changes. our jetta calls for 10k oil change intervals and yes thats with standard dino oil.

8k is very respectable and doable. what it boils down to is several factors: quality of oil you use, type of riding you do, and how hard you are on the oil (i.e. many short frequent trips, constant dusty conditions, extreme low temps, etc etc) and those factors call for shorter oil change intervals.

i do not go by mileage when it comes to changing the oil in the 919, i go by feel. when the transmission starts to get sloppy, it's time to change out the oil. this can range anywhere from 3k -5k miles depending on the season/riding conditions.

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in say 100k miles thats an extra 150bucks.... OVER 100k miles!!!!
How much are you paying for oil and a filter? That seems a little low.



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I was wondering as well, when you say you did the 16k mile service did you do the valves? If so, were they within spec....just curious as I'm at that mark now.

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havent checked the valves yet. A shop here in town will check and set them if needed for $270. I figured since im not sure about how to do it, that will be the best route for me to go. But ill let you know the outcome.

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havent checked the valves yet. A shop here in town will check and set them if needed for $270. I figured since im not sure about how to do it, that will be the best route for me to go. But ill let you know the outcome.
$270, man that ain't bad. If the shops around here charged that I would let them do it, but I'd be looking at about double that so I'll be attempting it myself. The large majority on here needed no adjustment at 16k so I'm interested to see what you get.

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All good info above. Just to add you can use car mobile 1 oil filter available at any local parts store. I don't know the model # of the top of my head but Mobil 1 is excellent quality unit.
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I replace my oil once a year at the end of the season. I usually ride between 2k-4k miles in a year. I use honda motorcycle oil and honda's filters. I've read somewhere that oil oil sitting can hurt your motorcycle. Now I'm not trying to start an oil war thread. It's just what I do. 2k-4k miles isn't bad either. Oil is cheap enough. So why not?

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Chain?? That's a good question! Why does my Drz eat chains like Popeyes chicken??

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when i was cleaning my chain today i noticed it said DID on it. Do honda's come stock with DID chains or has the PO changed it?

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PO changed it.

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DID does supply some OEM chains as well.

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DID does supply some OEM chains as well.
but for the 919? i'm not so sure. both 919's i bought had OEM chains and they were not did. could still be wrong though as usual

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Don't know about the 919 specifically, but I have seen DID chains on Honda motorcycles sitting on the showroom floor.

Honda is also pretty good about dividing up their vendor allotments for example some 2002 919's would come with Bridgestone tires and others with Michelins so it it not that far fetched to think they could user multiple suppliers for chains, sprockets, clutch plates or any other serviceable items.

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Don't know about the 919 specifically, but I have seen DID chains on Honda motorcycles sitting on the showroom floor.

Honda is also pretty good about dividing up their vendor allotments for example some 2002 919's would come with Bridgestone tires and others with Michelins so it it not that far fetched to think they could user multiple suppliers for chains, sprockets, clutch plates or any other serviceable items.
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I just swapped out the 20,000+ miles original 530 chain off my '03 919 - and it had DID on the side plates....

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I just swapped out the 20,000+ miles original 530 chain off my '03 919 - and it had DID on the side plates....
Mine was an RK i'm pretty sure.

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