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Is there a good method for cleaning the chain without removing it? I can't find a post directly addressing it.

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Kerosene works well. I also use Mineral Spirits, chase with WD-40, then chain lube.

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Thanks for the words and pics. I'm gonna try using BeanClean, toothbrush and Repsol.

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if you have a center stand and feel capable, it only takes about 5 minutes to remove the rear wheel. Then you can let the chain hang in a shallow dish of kerosene. I've been in the garage tearing parts off the 9er to clean and check things out. I'm pushing 20,000 miles and have only put on about 4 of those myself so I wanted to give it a thorough going through this winter. If I get feeling frisky, maybe I'll take some photos of the tear down and provide instruction.

Only piece of advice so far is to watch you knuckles when taking off the rear disk brake. Those things are on TIGHT!!! 80lb plus loctite? Apparently they don't want the disk to move.

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post #7 of 16 Old 11-22-2008, 06:58 AM
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I use http://www.wtkchemicalsolutions.com/index.html

It works very well for me...

Not sure the what the special brew is, but all you need to do is spray it on, let it sit for 3-8min, rinse off with water, and if really dirty, reapply and do the same..

Chain comes out like new..


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I've cleaned and oiled my chain once in 8 years. Still looks great, still works great... only has 8k miles on it though...and it's never been ridden in a drop of rain. My experience with modern o-ring chain is....oil of any kind just attracts road grit which is a lot more abrasive than metal/metal. Keep it dry, wipe it down with WD-40 now and then (which does nothing to lubricate..just keeps those gold side plates shining).
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This stuff works well and is easy -
http://www.solomotoparts.com/catalog...n-p-16907.html

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I've cleaned and oiled my chain once in 8 years. Still looks great, still works great... only has 8k miles on it though...and it's never been ridden in a drop of rain. My experience with modern o-ring chain is....oil of any kind just attracts road grit which is a lot more abrasive than metal/metal. Keep it dry, wipe it down with WD-40 now and then (which does nothing to lubricate..just keeps those gold side plates shining).
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Have to agree. This method has helped my chain last much longer than the Kerosene method. The only difference in my situation is my 02 9ner has 27k and is only on it's 2nd chain. first chain was cleaned with Kerosene and lubed with chain lube, the roller pins started ceasing up @ 12k. The current chain is still going strong - only 1 small adjustment for tension... no chain lube, no kerosene, just WD40 sprayed on liberally to remove dirt then wiped off. Then sprayed a 2nd time lightly and excess wiped off with a cloth.

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A thought just occurred to me! I realize how scary that is, but I have had 2 other independent thoughts in my life (and I've been alive for a long time.)
I am planning a 2K+ trip in the future. I know that I can always stop by the local Big Red store if I need a scheduled service, but what about my chain? Can I wait, or should I have that done as well? (Assuming that I service the chain just before I leave)

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There is no reason a clean, dry, properly adjusted modern O-ring chain would need in additional service during a 2,000 mile trip. Just the common sense stuff like checking tension now and then.

But...lube it up with something sticky that will collect road sand, and it will start the grinding process immediately.
As a machinist.... I cringe at the thought of taking a nice clean, dry, rolling mechanism like a chain and sprockets....thowing oil on them, then throwing a handful of sand on them. Can't think of a better way to accelerate wear, force dirt into seals, and make noise.

All the geezer hysteria about chain lube etc. is due to the 50 years of motorcycle chains BEFORE o-ring chains existed. (and I AM a geezer).

I would hop on my bike right now and do a 2,000 mile trip without the slightest concern for my chain. How many modern o-ring chains have you seen fail?
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I believe it has been said, but I for one will come off as a chain neglecter. Most important thing is chain tension. I always make certain that it is proper. When the chain seems nasty ... I simply spray WD-40 on it and grab the chain with an old towel or T-shirt. Ride for a bit to heat up chain and spray with a wax-based lube.

I have never had an issue with a chain, even on higher powered bike with lots of miles.

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Thanks for the replies! "I don't enjoy being obsessive, I just am"
I just wanna make sure I'm doing it right!

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If I understand everything I've read, the O-ring technology is the critical point. But I believe I've read elsewhere that the o-ring setup is similar to a sealed bearing set-up and that too much WD-40 has the same effect as on other seals i.e. enhances deterioration.

Maybe just a wipe with wd-40 to get any abrasive grit out, as opposed to spraying/saturating, and then the Honda o-ring chain lube so it can lubricate and leave white crap all over the place?

PS- I hear what some of you are saying about being obsessive. I actually have to say "CDO" because I have to put "OCD" in alphabetical order.

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I've heard that the WD-40 in an aerosol can is what eats seals. Something about the propellant in the can and that WD-40 bought in a gallon jug does not eat seals/rubber.

Any truth to this?

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