Can someone point me to the manual, I need the front wheel install procedure. - Wrist Twisters
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post #1 of 14 Old 03-03-2019, 10:48 AM Thread Starter
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Can someone point me to the manual, I need the front wheel install procedure.

My manual is on my other drive and I need the step by step to install the front wheel.

Not just torque specs, but I guess you do the pinch bolts before you do the end nut final torque.

Also, centering the wheel, don't remember if there's anything special there and I don't want to boot up my other system right now.

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Nevermind, found it.

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Nevermind, found it.
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Just remember to keep the pinch bolts loose on the fork leg with the large axle end nut, when you are torquing the nut.

The Manual deals with it rather obliquely.
The Manual merely says tighten the right side pinch bolts AFTER the instruction to "Hold the axle and tighten the axle bolt to the specified torque."
The Manual does not say how to "hold" the axle.
The weenie hole at the other end of the axle is inconsistent with holding rod having to counter torquing to 43 ft. lb.
Use the left leg pinch bolts to "hold the axle" while torquing up the nut.
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Just remember to keep the pinch bolts loose on the fork leg with the large axle end nut, when you are torquing the nut.

The Manual deals with it rather obliquely.
The Manual merely says tighten the right side pinch bolts AFTER the instruction to "Hold the axle and tighten the axle bolt to the specified torque."
The Manual does not say how to "hold" the axle.
The weenie hole at the other end of the axle is inconsistent with holding rod having to counter torquing to 43 ft. lb.
Use the left leg pinch bolts to "hold the axle" while torquing up the nut.
Thanks, I did not catch that and torqued the nut after both sets of pinch bolts. I'll have to redo it.

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I've got drop box app on my phone. And in that is the workshop manual. I can have it on hand in the shed while I'm working on the bike.

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Thanks, I did not catch that and torqued the nut after both sets of pinch bolts. I'll have to redo it.
No sweat, and it's way too easy to miss.

Hey, someone is going to ask why, so let's take care of that now and be done with it once and for all for everyone's sake.

If one torques the nut when both legs have their pinch bolts clamped, then the nut it being torqued in terms of the outboard face of the right fork leg where the nut faces up to it, as well as the threaded mating hole in the axle.

Meanwhile, the intent of torquing the net is to get the proper axial preload of the "inner stack" along the axle.
By leaving the right fork leg loose, the nut can axially load the axle to get the proper stack preload.
Essentially, the nut loads the far end of the axle all the way back to the flange of the nut.

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Never had a problem holding the axle via the little hole. I keep all pinch bolts loose while tightening the axle bolt Then tighten the bolt side pinch. Then bump the suspension several times. Then tighten the non-bolt side pinch absolutely last. AKA exactly as it says in the manual. Anything else is asking for bind or side load on the fork legs.

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Never had a problem holding the axle via the little hole. I keep all pinch bolts loose while tightening the axle bolt Then tighten the bolt side pinch. Then bump the suspension several times. Then tighten the non-bolt side pinch absolutely last. AKA exactly as it says in the manual. Anything else is asking for bind or side load on the fork legs.
I was under the impression that if you did it that way, you would be in too far. There's a line on the left where that hole is, I thought if you didn't have the pinch blots tight, it would pull the line in too far.


IDK what difference it would make, but how can you torque the end nut and keep the line outside, is there an edge there that holds the torque?

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Don't worry about the line. Let the fork leg go where it wants to go.
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From my experience, having the axle line dead on has the rotors dead center inside the calipers. Them being off makes the rotors NOT centered in the calipers.

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If you want to wear the bushings in the fork &/or cause binding during stroke, tighten the axle however you like. Honda's procedure (& for pretty much any fork in general) is as I explained. The caliper pistons will self adjust to the rotor.

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Well I went out today and redid the process the correct way. It does sound right that it would pull from the far end, not the close end...

Either way, I feel better following the Honda engineers.

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Resurrected for KarlJay

Found this one for you.

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post #14 of 14 Old 07-02-2019, 08:56 AM
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See Fork oil - how often.
That is surely the one you are looking for.

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