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post #1 of 5 Old 05-07-2018, 11:25 PM Thread Starter
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Can anyone explain why sliders don't just snap off?

I had crash bars on the prior bike and they got hit pretty hard. They attached at 3 points and covered the lower case and worked great.

I see these plastic stubs sticking out and I'm thinking, how would these things NOT just snap off? Given their angle, wouldn't it be better to at least have a bar that connects to more than one point?

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Many times they do snap off. Greatly depends on the material of the slider and what they are sliding against. Delrin is great for sliding at high speeds, but a simple tip-over impact can shatter them right off the bolts - it's always a tradeoff...

For street bikes I generally refrain from using any sliders at all. The reason is public roads are usually lined with soft shoulders of grass or dirt. Once a slider comes off the hard asphalt it will dig into the soft substrate catch a grip and then flip the bike or roll it over so now instead of just grinding one side of the bike you have both sides and probably the tank and windscreen damaged too. There are always exception, but in decades of street riding and track instructing I have pretty much seen it all and as far as I am concerned sliders are for the track not public roads.

I have also witness a problem with sliders that mount down low on the chassis. Honda sportbikes are really bad about this. The lower the slider is on the chassis the more propensity it had to flip the bike when it digs in while sliding.
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I've got a set of HEED crash bars fitted to my bike. I had some frame sliders once but I felt they wouldn't protect much. They also looked like black dildo's sticking out.
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I've got a set of HEED crash bars fitted to my bike. I had some frame sliders once but I felt they wouldn't protect much. They also looked like black dildo's sticking out.
That's kinda funny, they are cheaper than what some are asking for sliders. Hornet 900 (02-07)

I saw where some were just sold in the classifieds before posted this and wondered why someone wouldn't just get bars.

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Many times they do snap off. Greatly depends on the material of the slider and what they are sliding against. Delrin is great for sliding at high speeds, but a simple tip-over impact can shatter them right off the bolts - it's always a tradeoff...

For street bikes I generally refrain from using any sliders at all. The reason is public roads are usually lined with soft shoulders of grass or dirt. Once a slider comes off the hard asphalt it will dig into the soft substrate catch a grip and then flip the bike or roll it over so now instead of just grinding one side of the bike you have both sides and probably the tank and windscreen damaged too. There are always exception, but in decades of street riding and track instructing I have pretty much seen it all and as far as I am concerned sliders are for the track not public roads.

I have also witness a problem with sliders that mount down low on the chassis. Honda sportbikes are really bad about this. The lower the slider is on the chassis the more propensity it had to flip the bike when it digs in while sliding.
Yes indeed, Sliders can become Slingers........................

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