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Brakes, Brakes, Brakes....

I should have my man card pulled.
Yup.
I do not wash my bike that often.
I do not keep my chain up as good as one should, however I never take a risk when it comes to safety. Nope. Never... at least never with a sport bike.

But this Tiger has made me lazy.
Very lazy.
The bike is a turn key machine. 34000 trouble free miles.
I got it inspected a little while back and the inspector just looked at me and shook his head. He pointed at my rear brake and continued his inspection.

I run to the back and snag some new EBCs off the shelf and run back to my bike. Installed before he finishes the inspection. Woohoo! Kinda.

No damage to the rotor... but there was no pad left at all on the rear brake.
NONE!
Usually I burn through three sets of frint before the rear needs attention. But the tiger is fun to slide. It is fun to just about do anything. SO I burned up my rear brake. No biggie.

He hands me the passing slip and let me know the front brakes are next.
SO I bought pads and rode home. Never even looked till tonight.
Did they pass inspection? Yup.
Should they have passed? Yup.
But Legal does not me good.
I replaced my pads this evening and I can already feel a tremendous difference in the the brake lever in the garage. HOLY CRAP!

I took laziness to a new level for myself. I am embarrassed, but feel like sharing just as a reminder for everyone to check their own. My bike made no indication there was a problem when riding. I noticed the lever was coming further back, but over the course of a couple years, it is not a drastic change.

Lastly...
these were the original brakes.

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I did the same thing with my rear stock pads on the 919 a few hundred miles ago. 29k miles on stock rear pads. They got so low that I was starting to scorch the rear rotor.

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Good deal. Now take soap and water to that thing.

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You're a better man than me. I'm a sucker when it comes to brake and tires on bikes. It may be very stupid of me, but I change them at the half way point.

Now put down the pint tonight and wash the bike.

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I would skip the tires and brakes and do a track day.

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I would skip the tires and brakes and do a track day.
That is why my brakes last 30+ thousand miles. I know when to use them and when not too.

Ask Snicker boy how many times he sees my brake lights on a spirited ride.....

But since you brought up track days....

Trackdays were how my sport bikes stayed in perfect mechanical shape. I went over them carefully before every track day. Always inspected tires for wear, heat discoloration, etc... Checked brakes to ensure they could hold up for another weekend of abuse, changed oil every other track day, etc...

Wow! One more argument for trackdays! Thanks Mike!

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I....., I just don't know you any more Mike...

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My new resolution will be spell checker.... sorry guys, juyst reread my first post. I suck.

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You're a better man than me. I'm a sucker when it comes to brake and tires on bikes. It may be very stupid of me, but I change them at the half way point.

Now put down the pint tonight and wash the bike.
Bring all your half-used parts to E'ville and I'll drive over to pick them up;

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But since you brought up track days....

Trackdays were how my sport bikes stayed in perfect mechanical shape. I went over them carefully before every track day. Always inspected tires for wear, heat discoloration, etc... Checked brakes to ensure they could hold up for another weekend of abuse, changed oil every other track day, etc...

Wow! One more argument for trackdays! Thanks Mike!
I give my bike a good look over regularly...It's the Tech in me as thats what I do for a living and just habbit. Same way with my cars.

Maybe if you stopped cramming track days down peoples throats as if those that don't do a track day are in the wrong you'd get a better reaction...

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i'm over 300 miles from a track... and dream of getting a track day, but alas... the RC is coming out of the garage tonight to kill the streets!! i've had a month to look at it and make sure it's ready, but i'm not quite to the point of washing it

30,000 mile 919 survivor. No plans of stopping the abuse any time soon.
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I give my bike a good look over regularly...It's the Tech in me as thats what I do for a living and just habbit. Same way with my cars.

Maybe if you stopped cramming track days down peoples throats as if those that don't do a track day are in the wrong you'd get a better reaction...

Hav-a-goo-day Mike
You are right, it is far better to check over your bike and make sure it is safe then to i don't know...

Train the rider to make sure they are safe.

But I guess you may need a 150hp for some reason....

Oh yeah, to talk about riding....

Just remember, everytime you break 100mph.... a track day is cheaper than the potential ticket.

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... Just remember, everytime you break 100mph.... a track day is cheaper than the potential ticket.
That's just insane ludacris speeds. Who would ever ride that fast?!

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That's just insane ludacris speeds. Who would ever ride that fast?!

Apparently I do all the time


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Pre-ride checklist always includes tire pressure. While your checking the tires it only takes few extra seconds to look at the pads.

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Apparently I do all the time
How do you hold onto your bike when going that fast? Wouldn't the wind turbulence blow you off?

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That's just insane ludacris speeds. Who would ever ride that fast?!
wow ... i didnt know bikes went that fast...


are ya'll serious they will go over 100 mph... i read somewhere if you went that fast the pressure of the wind would kill you because you couldnt breathe...



talking about track days... thats a nice way to sharpen and perfect your skills...

but to go you have to have full sets of leather or equivilent

then buy new tires when your done

safety wire the whole bike killing the resale (trust me.. we used to have lots of them coming for trade in with safety wire... automatic 1000 off the trade value)

then last and certainly not least if you go down on the race track and wad up your precious bike your insurance company is gonna tell you to suck it..

cause that is specifically a no-no in your policy..



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How do you hold onto your bike when going that fast? Wouldn't the wind turbulence blow you off?

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That is why my brakes last 30+ thousand miles. I know when to use them and when not too.

Ask Snicker boy how many times he sees my brake lights on a spirited ride.....

But since you brought up track days....

Trackdays were how my sport bikes stayed in perfect mechanical shape. I went over them carefully before every track day. Always inspected tires for wear, heat discoloration, etc... Checked brakes to ensure they could hold up for another weekend of abuse, changed oil every other track day, etc...

Wow! One more argument for trackdays! Thanks Mike!
I only use the brakes for doing stoppies and burnouts...at the track of course

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That's just insane ludacris speeds. Who would ever ride that fast?!
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isnt that "sthhuper human ssthhrength"...



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I only use the brakes for doing stoppies and burnouts...at the track of course
Alright...enough already...we all have our own veiws...this thread is going downhill quick. Hondaf4iguy, I understand you rant with track days...some will go, some won't...If an owner of a sport bike doesn't do a track day then so be it...it is his choice...No need to throw it in his face everytime you see him.

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wow ... i didnt know bikes went that fast...


are ya'll serious they will go over 100 mph... i read somewhere if you went that fast the pressure of the wind would kill you because you couldnt breathe...



talking about track days... thats a nice way to sharpen and perfect your skills...

but to go you have to have full sets of leather or equivilent
Not true. Depending on the trackday. You can wear an Aerotech suit or equivalent. A 2-piece zip together leathers will suffice.

then buy new tires when your done
Again, not true. Yes, you will wear your tires on the track, but even after an "aggressive" day at the track by an average person like me. I still have tire left.

safety wire the whole bike killing the resale (trust me.. we used to have lots of them coming for trade in with safety wire... automatic 1000 off the trade value)
Again, not true. Yes, you will need to do a few things to your bike. The most important for most trackdays is removing "glycol" coolant and replacing with a "Water-wetter" type. Taping all "glass" or removing and removing plate/tag or anything that could fly off. Safety wire is not required for most trackdays and almost any bike is allowed on the track. Again, almost any bike. If you plan on "racing" ... yes, safety wire is required.

then last and certainly not least if you go down on the race track and wad up your precious bike your insurance company is gonna tell you to suck it..
Again, not true. Though it may not be "ethically" correct and you'd be fibbing. I know several individuals that have claimed damage to a bike after a trackday. It is not racing ... it is "training". Much like dropping a bike at an Advanced MSF course. Then, some insurance companies hear track and you may need to fib on where it happened and some blue pix threw dust on the back road you were riding.

cause that is specifically a no-no in your policy..
Not being an a-hole. Just trying to clarify a few things. Trackdays are a great thing. Even if you aren't "Ricky Racer" ... get out there and have a blast!

I love listening to all the "poser" riders that tell you how fast they are and how they can ride any road and smoke anyone and how they can ride the wheels off there bike ...

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Don't feel to bad, I had the same situation with my 919.

Changed the rubber late in the season last year and discovered the rear brakes were toast. Not bad enough to wreck the rotor, but further gone than I was comfortable with.

Dropped new pads in front and rear and discovered the fronts only had about 1/3 or less left as well. Wow! What a difference it made. And if I knew it was as easy as it was to swap them I would have done it a long time ago.

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How do you hold onto your bike when going that fast? Wouldn't the wind turbulence blow you off?
Whatever you do make sure your visor is fully closed, if it comes open you will instantly back flip off the bike, this goes double for your passenger. And then they will be on here posting pics of their rash and trying to convince everyone that having an open visor is dangerous.

I recommend duct taping the visor shut, or even better superglue.

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....and how they can ride the wheels off there bike ...
Riders who can do this are few and far between, and the few you actually meet will likely NOT be the ones who are talking about it.

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Just remember, everytime you break 100mph.... a track day is cheaper than the potential ticket.
uhm, so youre gonna start doing trackdays again then?

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