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post #1 of 10 Old 05-26-2014, 08:37 PM Thread Starter
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Battery Woes

Today was an interesting day. 919 left me stranded for the first time ever. Wife and I rode all day in the hot Phoenix heat, stopped and started it several times with no issues. Then later in the afternoon rode to the base of south mountain and stopped to get water before heading up the summit. Bike was turned off maybe 5 minutes, only to come back and have the starter whirr down as the battery died.

Da fuq?!

Tried push starting it a few times to no avail, got to a point where the engine wouldn't even turn over anymore, the rear tire would just drag. So I let it sit and pulled the battery out. The battery was actually way too hot to handle with bare hands much to my surprise. One side (inside towards the air filter housing) was much hotter than the other side.

Had several people offer to jump it, except they didn't have cables lol. One family stopped and said they had cables, so they gave me a jump and the bike fired right up and kept running. The guy said that its known for the heat to zap batteries like that, but its hard to tell if the battery needs replacing or if it just needs to cool down.

Well I can't have that happening again. So, what do I look at for a replacement battery?

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post #2 of 10 Old 05-26-2014, 10:17 PM
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I would do some research on how well lithium batteries handle the heat. We already know they take a while to warm up while cold, but I don't know how they handle extreme heat for extended periods of time.

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Heat is a notorious killer of conventional batteries. It would be interesting to know what kind of battery it was, the in service date, mileage, and if it was tendered.

The Yuasa in my ST just died yesterday, tendered all of its life, in service date was 8/04 with 48K on the clock. I rolled it out of the garage, hit the starter button, and nada. I just did 1650 miles down to Mt. Airy, NC the week before last with no issues.



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I like visiting the Valley - My suggestion, replace the battery, head up to Sedona via backroads.

Then up to Flagstaff and do the Sunset Crater loop.

It you need a place to sleep, ride up to Lockett Meadow and camp, you'll thank me.

Return home, post pictures.

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I just picked up a lithium battery, weighs like 1/4 of what most batteries weigh.

Also, removing that battery on the side of the road must have been awful. I was struggling to get my battery out in the garage not long ago. Honestly, who designed that housing for the battery?!!?

I will be attaching some leads soon so I won't have to mess with it again. Does anyone have any mods they did to make access to the battery easier?

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My GSX-R has 2 bolts and takes 30 seconds to get out.
My 919 has 1 bolt and takes @#$%@#$ %%#$ $#@$#@ to get out.

Yup crappy design for sure!

Sucks getting stranded, can you do a load test on it like an old school battery?
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I just picked up a lithium battery, weighs like 1/4 of what most batteries weigh.

Also, removing that battery on the side of the road must have been awful. I was struggling to get my battery out in the garage not long ago. Honestly, who designed that housing for the battery?!!?

I will be attaching some leads soon so I won't have to mess with it again. Does anyone have any mods they did to make access to the battery easier?
High on my list of things to do. The positive cable terminates at the main fuse. I'm hoping to be able to piggyback the terminal there, although it's kinda cozy there too. Otherwise I'll cram a second cable inside the battery box.

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Heat is a notorious killer of conventional batteries. It would be interesting to know what kind of battery it was, the in service date, mileage, and if it was tendered.
I will check into that and post back when I can. I can say its an AGM battery, sealed.

What should I be replacing it with? My search so far does not yield any type of battery that likes 110+ weather.

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How old was the battery? Could it just be at the end of its normal life regardless of the heat. I'm sure they all get pretty hot with the location of the battery box right next to the engine.

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Bike has been starting up and running fine all day today. Never experienced this before so this is new to me.

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