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post #1 of 19 Old 08-26-2018, 05:11 PM Thread Starter
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Anyone have the PCIII (non-USB) software?

Or, can I just configure the PCIII USB software to connect via serial port? Not getting any answers on the PC website as to the backwards compatibility of the later USB-version software.



EDIT!!! - DOH! I found it in their drop-down menu to select which version. Had to run as Admin to get it to work with Win10 Ultimate. Fingers crossed!

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Or, can I just configure the PCIII USB software to connect via serial port? Not getting any answers on the PC website as to the backwards compatibility of the later USB-version software.



EDIT!!! - DOH! I found it in their drop-down menu to select which version. Had to run as Admin to get it to work with Win10 Ultimate. Fingers crossed!
My understanding is that a Serial ported PCIII as preceded the USB ported PCIIIusb, needs the software of that era.
(keeping in mind that even the map file formats are different)
So, I'm very keen to hear how you make out!
Earlier this year, I got replacement PC3 software after my laptop fried.
So, it can still be had, but not by a self download from the PowerCommander website.
Instead, a PowerCommander office tech connects with your laptop, and gets the software file to your machine while remotely controlling your laptop.
They had me sorted out very quickly.
Also, the PCIIIusb software will convert a .map format map to the .djm format that the PCIIIusb uses.
The only way I found to convert .djm format maps to .map format for old Serial Port PCIIIs, was to manually build the map in .map format while using PC3 software to do so, plus also having to use it to do the map install into the PCIII unit.

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Ugh!!! So, any chance at someone having the older .djm mapping files??

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Ugh!!! So, any chance at someone having the older .djm mapping files??
I may have confused you, and if so, sorry about that.
Anyway, the "old" map format is in .map, while the current is in .djm
Most of the map inventory is in .djm
But there is a good number of .map based maps that I put into the Dropbox.
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Dropbox??? Have a link?

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NVM. Found a link to it

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Have fun playing around with the PC111. I had a great time trying out different maps. I settled on one I liked, tweaked it a bit and haven't touched it since. Good times!

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NVM. Found a link to it
The most expansive maps library is in the McRomo Compilation subfolder.

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NVM. Found a link to it <img src="https://www.wristtwisters.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" />
The most expansive maps library is in the McRomo Compilation subfolder.
That’s what I found, for the older .map files

Luckily, was able to easily get my ETON pc232u serial-to-USB cable to work great.

I loaded the mw919mori4.map based on the notes and seems to smooth out my low-speed throttling and deceleration with Yoshi TRS slip-ons and K&N filter.

Any recommendations of another file I should try, or should I look into mapping my own from a later .djm file? &#x1f642;

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I really like Pvsters maps. There is also a dedicated Dynajet Yoshimura map floating about. I think it's in the Dropbox? I know it's in Dynajets website. Map 005?

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The map I am using is what I will describe as a tinker tune derived variation of the 'mori4 map based on the my bike with 2005 era Yosh' TRSs on it.
See the Dropbox "1 McRomo44 Compilation" folder, then the "Maps" subfolder within and look for "Ben W Map for Sandy919".
It's .djm but can be recreated as a Serial ported PCIII by using the earlier software to convert it to .map format.
In essence, be it by twin screens or from a print of the .djm map, simply build a map from a blank form, by entering the same values of the .djm map to the .map map form.

There are some other maps in the "old MAP subfolder" of "Maps".
You could try the sato919-1 and -1c maps.
The 919-1 looks to be a max power criteria based mapping, done by Dan Kyle personally.
Based on early large bore Satos.
The better bet would be the LDH modification of it, as in the 1c map.
These were both done in 2003.

There's also some 2004 vintage maps that I think are further LDH evolutions of the 1c map.
(I have not taken the time to do "map compare", so be careful with the aforementioned.)
See 919satonew1 and '2.
It's been so long since I looked at this stuff in any detail, the satonew may be for the small bore Satos that superceded the earlier large bore design.

There is a Yosh' based map on the PowerCommander website.
(I think it's only in .djm format but I could be wrong.)
Rest assured, it would not be a tinker tune derived map, and instead a quickie heavily based on target A/F Ratios.

Have fun, and please let us all know your findings of the maps you try.
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The map I am using is what I will describe as a tinker tune derived variation of the 'mori4 map based on the my bike with 2005 era Yosh' TRSs on it.
See the Dropbox "1 McRomo44 Compilation" folder, then the "Maps" subfolder within and look for "Ben W Map for Sandy919".
It's .djm but can be recreated as a Serial ported PCIII by using the earlier software to convert it to .map format.
In essence, be it by twin screens or from a print of the .djm map, simply build a map from a blank form, by entering the same values of the .djm map to the .map map form.

There are some other maps in the "old MAP subfolder" of "Maps".
You could try the sato919-1 and -1c maps.
The 919-1 looks to be a max power criteria based mapping, done by Dan Kyle personally.
Based on early large bore Satos.
The better bet would be the LDH modification of it, as in the 1c map.
These were both done in 2003.

There's also some 2004 vintage maps that I think are further LDH evolutions of the 1c map.
(I have not taken the time to do "map compare", so be careful with the aforementioned.)
See 919satonew1 and '2.
It's been so long since I looked at this stuff in any detail, the satonew may be for the small bore Satos that superceded the earlier large bore design.

There is a Yosh' based map on the PowerCommander website.
(I think it's only in .djm format but I could be wrong.)
Rest assured, it would not be a tinker tune derived map, and instead a quickie heavily based on target A/F Ratios.

Have fun, and please let us all know your findings of the maps you try.


I may have to try and get the later PCIIIUSB software downloaded so I can look at that Yosh .djm map and mimmick it to a .map and try it out.


Finally got out on the highway with the mw919mori4.map and I must be leaning out at-speed. With my (now) 16/43 gearing, I was running between 4200-4400 @ 80mph. Now I'm right up over 5K @ 80mph.

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I may have to try and get the later PCIIIUSB software downloaded so I can look at that Yosh .djm map and mimmick it to a .map and try it out.


Finally got out on the highway with the mw919mori4.map and I must be leaning out at-speed. With my (now) 16/43 gearing, I was running between 4200-4400 @ 80mph. Now I'm right up over 5K @ 80mph.
If you have stock ratio 16/43 gearing with a stock rear tire, the engine is indeed tach'ing a hair over 5000 revs @ 80 mph.

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So you think I was running a bit too 'rich' on the mapping that was on my PCIII before? Hmmmmm




Looks like I may want to try a 41T in the rear. Won't change TOO much, I know. Don't know if I've ever had a near-liter bike that had such a high final drive ratio as this Niner does.


Of course, having a pair of shortened Yosh TRS cans on it probably exaggerates the sound just a bit.

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I loaded up the dynajet Yoshi map and took pics with my phone for ya.
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You are THE MAN, Islandboy. Thank you!

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You are THE MAN, Islandboy. Thank you!
Indeed, he's good Lad!

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No worries, thanks for the enthusiastic thanks!
I suggested this map cause myself and another 919 rider had great results with it. Neither one of us had Yoshi pipes but were using Delkevik. I had a bit of roughness at low revs/small throttle openings which this map greatly reduced. This map has a little fuel removed from this zone. I tinkered with the map a little and removed a bit more once I realized the fueling was a bit rich in this area, further decreasing the surging I was experiencing.
Good luck mate.

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Bump, for reference for a different thread.
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