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919 stored for a year, wont start. help! [video]


Please watch the above video to see whats happening. I stored my bike without a battery for a year. I bought a new battery and installed it yesterday. At first the lights went on, but when i tried to start the bike there was a weird clicking noise. The fuel pump primed. But it would nit start. I checked the fuses they all looked fine. Im guessing it has something to do with the pciii. Any ideas?

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post #2 of 26 Old 04-11-2015, 12:34 PM
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What's the battery voltage?

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Not sure. I trickle charged it overnight to be sure.

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Okay. If you have a multimeter, I think that would be a good first check, both with the key off, then key on and thumbing the starter. Beyond that, I would make sure all the connections to the PC3 are good.

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I'm worried the ECU is fried. The flashing lights must be a code of some sort. I was just hoping someone here would know what it meant. All the fuses and wires are fine as far as I can tell. I'm about as good with a multimeter as I am with a tattoo gun. : )

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You have to test the battery first. If you can't then take it a shop or garage and have them test it out of the bike for you.

I would remove the PC3 completely from the bike to trouble shoot .... I am willing to bet its the PC3 died way before the ECU has failed.

That is not a code ... codes will only flash the "check engine" light not the full spectrum of cluster lights. Its almost as if the PC3 is not allowing the ecu to fully boot up, then trying/dying/trying/dying.

Remove the PC3 .... double check your ground and power feed wires .... reinstall the "tested good" battery and try again.

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Thanks Ian. I'll start fresh tomorrow.

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Battery is good.

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What kind of trickle charger do you have? Does it tell you if the battery if fully charged by an LED or something? On my Battery Tender Jr. the LED Flashes REd for not charging, solid red for charging, and solid green for fully charged. Even if it says the batter is charged you may just need to replace the battery depending on its age any ways. If it is sealed then the acid may be dried up. $80 or so for a new one. If you want to spend the money you can go for an Lithium Ion and save some weight too. They run about $170

Second possibility could be the kill switch as when you had it engaged (On) none of the dash lights were on and the fuel pump did not prime. You only saw lights when you thumbed the starter which also points to not enough power getting to it. I have heard/read about peoples who switch does go out. You can test it with a multimeter.

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Isn't there a few different relays, maybe a start relay is bad see it a lot in my work with marine applications, kill switch is def possibility, looks like your on the right track tho.

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Just a guess, but if the battery is not making a good solid connection, when you ask for more amps (pressing the start) it would kill off the connection. Does it lose power when you hit the start switch?

It was hard to tell if you were pressing and holding the start or tapping it several times. It sounded like you were tapping it several times.

What happens if you press-n-hold the start? Do the lights stay off? If so, that sounds like a connection problem and it might not be at the battery.

I would start with jumping it with a car battery. If that doesn't change things, check the connection to the starter as well as other relay connections.

I assume the headlight comes on and is bright when you turn to on, if so, then the starter could be trying to draw too much power (weak connection, including ground).

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ECU's and PC111's don't "die" because they got stored over winter,
i'm guilty of this conclusion too, but really it's not even close.

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Did you do any work on the bike recently besides replacing the battery? If so I would retrace all of those steps and make sure everything was put back together right and nothing else was damaged in the process.

I would check that the ground wires are secure under the tank.

You didn't do any drilling on the undertail did you, like to install a fender eliminator? A couple of people have drilled into the ECU in the process.

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https://youtu.be/9ffS2wzGeDU

Just a quick Video of what a healthy 919 should look like for you to compare to.

Please excuse the messy garage!

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Hey guys. I did replace the spark plugs. And I unscrewed some of the pairs crap to gain access. Also pulled the radiator back. Not sure if I screwed up any wires underneath the tank in the process. I will double check. The battery has been tested and is 100% so I've ruled that out.

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Dave, thanks for posting the video. I took my new battery back to the store and had them check it so that's been ruled out. When I first put the battery in the headlight came on and the fuel pump primed. When I tried to turn the bike on, I heard some weird clicks and nothing happened. Now the headlight and the starting lights won't go on. So I'm guessing something isn't grounded and thought a fuse fried. All the fuses look good though.

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Dave, thanks for posting the video. I took my new battery back to the store and had them check it so that's been ruled out. When I first put the battery in the headlight came on and the fuel pump primed. When I tried to turn the bike on, I heard some weird clicks and nothing happened. Now the headlight and the starting lights won't go on. So I'm guessing something isn't grounded and thought a fuse fried. All the fuses look good though.
Check the fuses with a multi-meter to make sure they're good.

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post #18 of 26 Old 04-12-2015, 10:47 AM
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when my battery was almost fully dead it looked a lot like this video.

i have a feeling the battery is a lemon

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post #19 of 26 Old 04-12-2015, 12:20 PM
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Did they check the battery based on voltage or amperage? You can have full voltage but not enough amperage getting to the starter to turn it over.

Even if the battery was load tested, you'd still need to test the load on the connections while it's on the bike.

One test you could do is to test if 12V+ is going to the starter from the battery, in other words a connection between source and destination. Then you can test the same under load.

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Looks like Rudy found the culprit. As suspected a lemon of a battery. I hope they exchanged it for him and no extra cost!

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Looks like Rudy found the culprit. As suspected a lemon of a battery. I hope they exchanged it for him and no extra cost!

frackin lemons... no one wants lemons! i aint makin no lemonade... give me some pizza and a beer

wait, what are we talkin about again?

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Well I guess someone has to post this:


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post #23 of 26 Old 04-12-2015, 10:59 PM
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My good battery that was less then a year old was perfect, until I hit the starter button and BAM it dropped to zero volts, as soon as I let off the button it went right back to 12

Check the voltage on your battery with the key on and then watch it as you hit the starter button.
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post #24 of 26 Old 04-13-2015, 05:00 AM Thread Starter
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Fixed it guys. It was the battery after all. What a relief. Thanks for all your help.

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post #25 of 26 Old 04-13-2015, 05:24 AM
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Good to hear. =)

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post #26 of 26 Old 04-13-2015, 06:32 AM
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Another one due to battery.

Not a good feeling thinking about how it could be X Y or Z... only to be the B.

Glad it worked out... for both of us!
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