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post #1 of 12 Old 03-27-2016, 10:10 AM Thread Starter
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2002 919 - Smoke then bike is dead

Was a daily rider until November when I put it up for the season. Pulled it out today, bike was dead so I jumped it, then let it run for an hour while sitting in the driveway. Pulled the cables off, brapped the throttle a couple of times then heard a pop, saw smoke under the tank and then complete loss of power. I just put it back up instead of taking the tank off to look due to lack of time today, but anyone have an armchair diagnoses they think makes sense?

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post #2 of 12 Old 03-27-2016, 10:19 AM
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So you jumped the bike, then let the bike idle for an hour WITH the jumper cables still attached?

There are so many things wrong with that. You should just cut your losses and have someone else fix it.

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Was a daily rider until November when I put it up for the season. Pulled it out today, bike was dead so I jumped it, then let it run for an hour while sitting in the driveway. Pulled the cables off, brapped the throttle a couple of times then heard a pop, saw smoke under the tank and then complete loss of power. I just put it back up instead of taking the tank off to look due to lack of time today, but anyone have an armchair diagnoses they think makes sense?
If the date today was April 1st. this post would be a good one!

If this is real and you do plan to repair this yourself look for melted wires, blown fuses, melted stator insulation, failed R/R. Things like that. And if someone suggested this as a good method to prep your bike for the spring then have them write you a check.
You might want to invest in a battery charger...

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So the diagnosis is I'm a dumb ass? I think that's probably correct.

After Googling some after I posted here I realized what I did, I KNEW this and for some reason it didn't even come to mind as I did it anyways this morning. Good lord.

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First check the easy stuff. Fuses and relays. Actually replace fuses one at a time. They might look good but could be bad.
If it's none of that fixes it, what DOES your bike do? Do you hear the fuel pump prime when you flip then kill switch?

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Wait... so the bike was running as well as the car you were using to charge it? Dope! I've done the latter for maybe 10-15m but the battery was off the bike. (Shorai batteries don't like tenders)


If you're looking to replace a lot of stuff you might start looking for a wrecked bike to salvage electrical components from. Should be relatively cheap that way... would it be a lot of stuff to replace is the question?

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The car wasn't started.

After the pop and smoke, I get nothing when I turn the ignition on the bike. Nadda. The smoke came from directly under the gas tank right above the battery. Already looked at fuses, but I didn't just try replacing them even if they looked fine since I did hear the pop/see smoke under the tank.

Taking off the tank, the green wire going to the fuel pump is fried from the harness back. So that's what I saw burn. That's the beginning of the fun.

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The car wasn't started.

After the pop and smoke, I get nothing when I turn the ignition on the bike. Nadda. The smoke came from directly under the gas tank right above the battery. Already looked at fuses, but I didn't just try replacing them even if they looked fine since I did hear the pop/see smoke under the tank.

Taking off the tank, the green wire going to the fuel pump is fried from the harness back. So that's what I saw burn. That's the beginning of the fun.
This looks awfully similar to the below thread

https://www.wristtwisters.com/forums/...ake-63066.html

Looks like he was on the right track, but the thread just kind of ended.

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Most likely a relay of some sort. Fuses usually just 'go', without much fanfare.

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This looks awfully similar to the below thread

https://www.wristtwisters.com/forums/...ake-63066.html

Looks like he was on the right track, but the thread just kind of ended.
And his last post ever on this forum was on that thread... that doesn't bode well.

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How's the battery?

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The car wasn't started.

After the pop and smoke, I get nothing when I turn the ignition on the bike. Nadda. The smoke came from directly under the gas tank right above the battery. Already looked at fuses, but I didn't just try replacing them even if they looked fine since I did hear the pop/see smoke under the tank.

Taking off the tank, the green wire going to the fuel pump is fried from the harness back. So that's what I saw burn. That's the beginning of the fun.
jscro - Let us know how you are doing on this challenge.

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