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post #1 of 13 Old 10-14-2013, 10:44 AM Thread Starter
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Question 02 919 Gauge Cluster interchangeable?


I posted on here a little bit ago in search of some parts to fix my 2002 cb900f and haven't managed to find any of the parts so I am resorting to the web and ordering them. I have heard the 2004 combination meter is not interchangeable with the 2002 (due to two trip meters = different connectors) and conveniently, the 04 model is all I see for sale on ebay- does anyone have input on that? Or does anyone have recommendations for an aftermarket combination meter I can replace my broken OEM one with? I have found other blogs noting a F4i with an extra connector is interchangeable?
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Also, I'd like to stay around $200 or less (I know this is going to limit my options but it is all I have)
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You should be able to change the connector on the 04+ gauges or rearrange the pins in order to fit yours.

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The cluster has two cannpn plugs. One is plug and play, the other needs to be repinned to the plug fro. Your existing. Its easy.

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Not sure if this will help, but it would be the same in reverse for your needs:

Gauges pin layout for Honda 919 2002 vs 2007 - YouTube

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The cluster has two cannpn plugs. One is plug and play, the other needs to be repinned to the plug fro. Your existing. Its easy.
This all does help but I am very new to bike repairs so all insight is truly appreciated. Below is a link to the ebay item I am looking at:
Gauges Speedometer Tachometer Meter for Honda Hornet 900 CB900 CB919F 2002 2007 | eBay
Aside from comparing the wires on the bike to those on the cluster and moving a couple wires around, will I need any extra parts to do so, or is it truly a matter of just pulling them out with a needle nose and putting them back in a different spot?
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You can't use needle nose pliers, well, not at first. You'll need a very small flathead screwdriver or punching awl or something similar to press down on the locking tab first, then pull on the wire to get the pin to come out.

No other harnesses, etc. needed, move the pins and plug it in. The +04 bikes had one less wire than the 02's, though, I think a common ground was added? Not sure, but if you have an 02 bike, you'll have one extra wire that you may either have to tape off, or solder in to another one. You might have to look at the wiring diagrams in the service manual.

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What about a koso copy? That is in that price range. Or did that not go well?

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Use a sewing needle or safety pin to pop the locks inside the connector.

You could also just cut, splice, soder and heatshrink the wires instead.

Repinning is much cleaner and not hard it just takes some practice.

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What about a koso copy? That is in that price range. Or did that not go well?
They were for a two stroke application and i don't think it ever panned out.

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Good deal. I am going to order the instrument tonight- seems as though the swap should not be too hard (as long as I can get all the other mounting brackets bent back into shape). I'll repost once I receive it and give it a shot. I truly appreciate the input from all who responded.
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Talking Thanks all! Pictures Attached!

I would like to thank all for their input on the cluster swap. It was very easy to do, the most time consuming thing was finding something to assist removing the pins from the '02 and '04 white connectors. Although this task may be preschool work to most of you, it was new to me and so I would like to pass it on to others need.

Upon receiving and examining the two clusters, the black connectors are exactly the same, need no modification, and are plug and play.

The white connectors have the same number of wires, however a few of the wire color codes are different, the pin arrangement is different and the connect is different as well.

To fix this, I took pictures of the wires and how they were positioned in the original (2002) cluster. Removed all of the pins from each of the white connectors. Repined the old connector from the 2002 cluster with the wires of the 2004 cluster following the pictures, and whala!

*Note*
Some of the wire color codes changed between the two years. Although pretty self explanatory, below is the conversion between the 2002 and 2004.

~ '02 blue wire with black stripe gets replaced by the blue wire from the '04
~'02 red wire with green stripe gets replaced by the green wire with the red stripe from the '04
~'02 white wire with blue stripe gets replaced by the blue wire with the white stripe from the '04
~'02 orange wire gets replaced by the orange wire from the '04.
~'02 light blue wire gets replaced by the light blue wire from the '04.
~'02 blue wire with red stripe gets replaced by the blue wire with the red stripe from the '04

After you reconnect it to the bike, you will also discover you now have two (2) trip odometers and a clock! My cluster did not come with instructions but it again was pretty self explanatory. To set the clock, push the right button until the clock appears. Press and hold both the left and right button until the time begins to blink. Left button changes hours (in military time). Right changes minutes. Once set, turn ignition key to off position. Your clock is now set!

Hope this helps to any newbs like myself.

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~ '02 blue wire with black stripe gets replaced by the blue wire from the '04
~'02 red wire with green stripe gets replaced by the green wire with the red stripe from the '04
~'02 white wire with blue stripe gets replaced by the blue wire with the white stripe from the '04
~'02 orange wire gets replaced by the orange wire from the '04.
~'02 light blue wire gets replaced by the light blue wire from the '04.
~'02 blue wire with red stripe gets replaced by the blue wire with the red stripe from the '04
Thanks for writing that out - if you don't mind, I'm going to add that to my YouTube video description. Might help those that are hard of hearing

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