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post #1 of 25 Old 03-13-2013, 07:20 PM Thread Starter
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Windscreen Experience

So just installed the National Cycle F16 Tour Windscreen, and while it's not perfect, I must say I'm impressed by the diversion of chest pressure, and really the greatest difference at 70 to 80+ is the even flow of wind. Buffetting is much reduced because it's focused, and riding pressure in the gale winds of Texas much ameliorated by the windscreen. And it looks pretty cool, too, as evidenced by the number of people catching me in multiple parking lots to talk about the bike. No offence to totally naked, but a little bit of tinted accent goes a long way. I may change my mind and take it off when the weather warms up, but right now it's pretty much appreciated.

And while I had some challenges with the brackets, I got all to work, and still have significant degrees of adjustment.

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post #2 of 25 Old 03-13-2013, 07:55 PM
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I have gone through several "flyscreens" to decide naked is my preference. I have not tried one like yours so I cant comment on it. I dont want a large windscreen on my niner cause it just is not the theme of the bike in my opinion, it's not a cruzer. The problems I have with the smaller sporty screens is that it just seem to speed up and focus the air at my chest or chin.

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I would like to see pics of your 9er with this windscreen.

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Will do. Just put the bike up for the weekend, trading out for the truck for weekend duties, but I'll take a picture on Sunday.

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No, seriously, looking at the same thing for mine. Can you take some close ups of the attachment points and mounting hardware.
My 919 came to me with an F4i instrument cluster and I to make sure everything will fit.


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post #6 of 25 Old 03-15-2013, 01:30 AM
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Personally, I hated the f-16/18 windscreens.

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Personally, I hated the f-16/18 windscreens.
I agree with you. I have the f16 shield. It just chops the air and directs it at your face. However, that is the standard f16. The touring model is supposed to be a bit higher and have a flair at the top. I am curious to see if it can get the air above you.

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I have f16 touring, and no still to low. I am 6' and it puts air just above chin in middle of face shield. Less pressure on body than stock, but not perfect by no means.

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I've got a standard F16 and with ear plugs I was fine with the way the air was deflected towards my helmet. I picked up a blue tooth kit so I could talk to the SO on a road trip and suddenly realized how loud it really was. I had to go without a windscreen to be able to hear anything.

I am looking at a Givi A602 for this season. If anybody has any exp with the 602 or other taller windscreens I'd love to hear them before I purchase.

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My Power Bronze works great but then again I am 5'4".
We rode Sat. and the wind was blowing. I'd hate to think how bad it would have been without it.

To each his own I guess.

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OK, here's the pictures, finally. Still in test phase, but let's face it, if I wanted a touring bike, that's what I'd be riding. And one day, the BMW R1200RT will be mine. But I'll always scamp around on the 919.

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Ooh, forgot the closeups of the brackets. I'll do that tonight, when the bike is in the shade. The sunlight washes out detail....

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I've got the same setup on my 9er and I'm about to remove it. I have tried it all all speed ranges and it just puts soo much wind right onto my neck/chin that its uncomfortable.

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After riding for a week or so, I'm finding that I get the most unwanted turbulence when riding at high speed in traffic where there's turbulence from the vehicle in front of me. Clear road ahead, not so much, and consistent pressure, but not too bad - I'm 5'8", maybe that helps. And the Shoei 1100 helmet is pretty smooth. I may take engineering into my own hands and machine some more adjustable brackets that attach with more than the clamps they provide for the rear part of the triangle, just to raise the angle. That and raise the screen far enough above the headlight to tilt it farther forward. Again, this is just play for fun stuff. Regardless, the amount of cold breeze we've been having lately has been cut significantly. I used to dabble in aluminum and fiberglass in the aircraft industry, and I've half a thought to lay up a mold for a mini fairing. I'm sure there are those that will poo poo that idea on a naked bike, but playing around is half the fun. I think a sleek micro-rivetted aluminum airframe style cowel that hugs the contours would be an interesting experiment....

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BTW, Boskru, where are you in Fort Worth?

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Woke up thinking I may have asked you that already on a different thread - gettin' old.....

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I have this windscreen, but no mounting hardware.

I only plan to use it on a very long road trip, which should be coming up this spring... So maybe I should get on this.

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Mounting hardware is very simple, shouldn't be an issue to copy it if you have access to a band saw. But they sell the mounting hardware as a separate kit, and I don't remember if they use any elements from the sheild package itself. Best to call Naional Cycle and ask....

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Your right Devin4242, with the seperate kit, you don't use any of the hardware that comes with the shield and I think the kit is all stainless steel hardware and what comes with the screen seems to be of something a little cheaper.

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I am looking at a Givi A602 for this season. If anybody has any exp with the 602 or other taller windscreens I'd love to hear them before I purchase.
Yes, I'm running one of these. I ditched the OEM screen in favour of it, and have been running it for a couple of years.

I like it, but it may not be to everyone's taste - I'm not jumping from bike to bike all the time, so I just go with what I've got. It creates a reasonable hole in the air for me to sit in [6'1", BTW] and doesn't seem to me to create bad buffeting.

I took it off for some photos a while back, and couldn't believe the air pressure riding without it. So I guess I'm a fan...

It's pretty suck-it-and-see, I think....YMMV.
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I'd rather have clean air at 75 mph than having the windscreen turbulence hit my helmet and make noise.

Is it just me or does anyone else like the pressure of the wind on the chest as you're cranking up the speed and leaning into it?

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I'd rather have clean air at 75 mph than having the windscreen turbulence hit my helmet and make noise.

Is it just me or does anyone else like the pressure of the wind on the chest as you're cranking up the speed and leaning into it?
I have the carbon fiber copy of the OEM screen and find the wind hits me in a blade at about chin level. I do have a pocket of air that pushes against my chest too and I feel it counterbalances me leaning forward as i travel at ~80 indicated. Pretty comfy.

@kiwi: what is stuck to your sidestand? It looks like a block or something on the end of it.

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i have the double bubble one f16 or f18 not sure. better then oem took some time to get used to the look but i like it still bad buffing @ 80

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@kiwi: what is stuck to your sidestand? It looks like a block or something on the end of it.
Well spotted! Yes, there was for a while till I bought a second-hand sidestand and had it lengthened.

The aftermarket shock I put in was longer than std, which raised the rear end of the bike, and changed the length needed to prop it on a stand.

Took me a while to get the welding work done, so the bush-engineered block had to stand in, but it's all good now - stock-looking, but about 35mm longer.

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