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Watsen Design / Micro Alloy Install tip for 919

I searched for quite a while to find info on what wires were what for my Watsen Design, Micro Alloy Turn Signals. I also looked in my Honda Service Manual for a wiring diagram, but it was confusing for a newbie like me. I couldn't figure out what wire on the WD signals was positive and what was ground. After watching the following video, it explained it pretty well. NOTE: I wouldn't go crazy and start splicing wires if you buy from Watsen Design. If you tell them what style of connectors you have, or take a picture and email it to them, they will make sure they send it as a 'plug and play' unit. I did not have to splice wires.

How to install aftermarket turn signals on a Honda motorcycle | Wonder How To

I have a 2004 Honda 919 and the right signal has light blue wires, and the left has orange wires.

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HONDA OEM wires
  • Blue and Orange Wires with a white stripe are for running lights.
  • Blue and Orange Wires with NO stripe are for normal blinking.
  • Green wires are ground.

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  • Black wire is ground. (connect Left & Right black wires to oem green wires)
  • White wires are for normal blinking. (connect right WD Signal to blue non-striped wire, and the left WD Signal to the orange non-striped wire)

I hope this helps someone out there, and I apologize if this info is posted elsewhere. Happy riding everyone!

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Let's see some pics of those bad boys!

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I'll just show you a video. This is my first test using the iPhone 3GS. Sorry for the poor quality, but it's 9:30 and I have one light in my tiny garage.

YouTube - Honda 919 with Watsen Design Micro Alloy Turn Signals

I'll try to take a photo soon. You can also see my Oberon bar end mirrors. I LOVE THEM. So much better than stock in terms of function and aesthetics.

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It's like Speedy all over again.

Yeah Honda wiring is what it is, know it, love it, use it.

Now let's see those pics

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some pics. again, horrible low light photos, but you'll get the gist of it.
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Where can I buy these??

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watsen design. Be sure you take a photo of your connectors so that Mr. Watsen can make them totally plug and play. I've been riding with these for days and I have nothing but positive things to say about them. Here's a link to the ones I ordered:

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Those are neat Mr. Watsen has the same camera and light bulb as you.

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The Watsen MicroAlloy turn signals are probably the best on the market right now.
They're small and very bright.
They need no adapters to keep the standard blink rate.
They are an easy install.

Here's a link to several images I have of these turn signals:
IMAG0013.jpg
LeftFront_01.jpg
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I added them as links since they are large images.

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watsen design. Be sure you take a photo of your connectors so that Mr. Watsen can make them totally plug and play. I've been riding with these for days and I have nothing but positive things to say about them. Here's a link to the ones I ordered:

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Did you order the black gloss or matte?

Also, did you order the running light adapter?

I'm ordering these today!

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I was about to put a few pics of mine up on here but TexasTraffic pretty much covered all the bases already. They ARE bright in the daylight and visible. They ARE plug-n-play simple to install. They ARE really high quality design and build products. They ARE pretty expensive. I would have paid double to get the old OEM's the [email protected] off my bike! I felt like they took forever to arrive. If you do decide to get them, be ready to play the ol get home from work and check the mailbox AGAIN game.

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Did you order the black gloss or matte?
Also, did you order the running light adapter?
I'm ordering these today!
Gloss black.
Yes - running light adapter.

The matte black may be a better match to the 919's black frame.

The size & shape of the MicroAlloy turn signals closely matches the size & shape of the OEM mounting location. These look like a factory item, only better.

It is my understanding that these are made by one guy to order. You order 'em, then they get assembled. I waited ~5 weeks for mine to arrive (was told 6 weeks). The lead-time for the LED component is also a factor. This LED is only recently available on the market and a bit more expensive than older LED designs that are not as bright.
Worth it? Oh yea!

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Did you order the black gloss or matte?

Also, did you order the running light adapter?

I'm ordering these today!
I think you were asking me, but I got the same color as TexasTraffic. Gloss Black. I did not buy the running light adapter though. The black gloss matches pretty well with the OEM steel mounts IMO. It's all a matter of preference, but when I wax up the OEM mounts they shine pretty well and match the glossy finish of the Watsen LEDs. If you have a matte finish black tank, you might want the matte.

I waited about 3 1/2 weeks for mine. I agree with TexasTraffic, that they are the best you can get at the moment. I looked at Lockhart Phillips and a bunch of other brands, and nothing looked as nice or unique as the Watsen Designs version.

ORDER THEM! You won't be dissapointed. Just be sure you let him know what connectors you have.

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Just be sure you let him know what connectors you have.
I have an 06' 919. Is that enough info for them? I don't really know what type of connectors I have...

Thanks guys, this is really helpful and I am definitely ordering these....

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I have an 06' 919. Is that enough info for them? I don't really know what type of connectors I have...

Thanks guys, this is really helpful and I am definitely ordering these....
I think the video you posted at the top ('How to install aftermarket turn signals') is an 06 due to the red tank; I've emailed the poster to confirm.

I'm basically sending watson screen shots from the video, and indicating that the right signal has light blue wires, and the left has orange wires (why would they have changed this / not sure watson would care, they just want to see the connector type, right?).

Also, the OEM schematic of the turn signals is here, but doesn't seem like it will be of much use:
http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmot...15632sch418622

I can't think of anything else to send them....

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btw, I'm not going to be home for two weeks, hence why I am taking a guess at the connector type.

I should be patient in ordering these.... but you know how it goes....

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no prob, and I know how it is when you see that shiny new toy, and just have to have it.

Good news, is that you have plenty of time to send him pics. He'll be at least 3 weeks out until he'll be able to touch yours. According to TexasTraffic it might be longer for you. It took him 3.5 weeks for me.

That being said, SEND THE MAN A PHOTO OF YOUR CONNECTOR TYPE! The last thing you want to do is spend $115 bucks for something that you have to splice just to install it. I simply removed my headlight, and directly behind it I found the relevant connectors. I took a couple of pics with my phone and sent them to him. Honda did change the connectors at some point - i'm almost 100% sure. I'm just not certain when they made the change.

I think the video you watched, from Steve, will be sufficient if that's the same year as yours. I'm just the type that measures twice, and cuts once...most of the time anyway.

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no prob, and I know how it is when you see that shiny new toy, and just have to have it.

Good news, is that you have plenty of time to send him pics. He'll be at least 3 weeks out until he'll be able to touch yours. According to TexasTraffic it might be longer for you. It took him 3.5 weeks for me.

That being said, SEND THE MAN A PHOTO OF YOUR CONNECTOR TYPE! The last thing you want to do is spend $115 bucks for something that you have to splice just to install it. I simply removed my headlight, and directly behind it I found the relevant connectors. I took a couple of pics with my phone and sent them to him. Honda did change the connectors at some point - i'm almost 100% sure. I'm just not certain when they made the change.

I think the video you watched, from Steve, will be sufficient if that's the same year as yours. I'm just the type that measures twice, and cuts once...most of the time anyway.
Agreed. Got back from my trip early so am going to pop the light off tonight. Thanks!

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Agreed. Got back from my trip early so am going to pop the light off tonight. Thanks!
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Yeah your connections are totally different than mine. I guess i have the bullet type connectors.

Mr Watsen will have no problem figuring out your setup with good pics like that.

Shoot us pics when they are installed.

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As requested... Really love these blinkers!!!!!!!

Just installed this afternoon. Thankfully, I have a metric socket wrench set!!

BTW, I took my first drive down skyline boulevard, route 84, and pescadero drive. I cannot believe I live 20 minutes from this amazing riding!! Will post more about this soon.
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Thanks for posting, and I'm happy you dig em. Watsen makes some quality stuff.

I'm jealous about your riding conditions too - Sounds awesome.

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where do you send the pics of your connectors to get them to this watson guy?

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where do you send the pics of your connectors to get them to this watson guy?
Just go to the website, and in the upper right corner is the email address.

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Why did they stop at $100 for an LED, resistor and 3 wires? $250 sounds better.

And if you mention anything about the build quality of your 1" turn signal that you will never tough again I will smack you with my pin-filled hand.

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Why did they stop at $100 for an LED, resistor and 3 wires? $250 sounds better.

And if you mention anything about the build quality of your 1" turn signal that you will never tough again I will smack you with my pin-filled hand.
Um...I have no idea what you are talking about right now Ragdoll? Who are you directing this to, and what's your point?

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