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post #1 of 49 Old 02-13-2010, 04:16 AM Thread Starter
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Stupid plug nr. 3

Maybe an old one - but do any have the part number to some kind of "wrench" (maybe the org. part) so it's human possible to change spark plug nr. 3

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post #2 of 49 Old 02-13-2010, 05:00 AM
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Part #9 in the link. 89216-MAT-000

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The best one is supposedly the one that is in the 919 tool kit.

Part # is 89216-MAT-000

It's #9 in the attached pic

After beating my head on the wall when I changed plugs, I bought it. I haven't used it yet but hear it the best to get #3.
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The best one is supposedly the one that is in the 919 tool kit.

Part # is 89216-MAT-000

It's #9 in the attached pic

After beating my head on the wall when I changed plugs, I bought it. I haven't used it yet but hear it the best to get #3.

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Gotta get up earlier

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Great minds think alike though. Mine justs stays busy enough it won't let me sleep.

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Fastest way to change plug #3 is to just drop the motor.

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What's so special about the "tool"? Is it just a wobble extension since it isn't a straight shot to the plug?

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What's so special about the "tool"? Is it just a wobble extension since it isn't a straight shot to the plug?
It's not impossible to change it without it. It just makes the job a whole lot easier if you have the tool. It has a rubber piece inside it that grabs the plug and the extension part has some "wobble" built into it so you can get to them easier. A deepwell socket with a universal can get pretty tall and things get in the way of it.

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ya know, there are companies that sell nice magnetic swivel spark plug sockets other than honda, just fyi people.

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Yeah, the ole #3 is a character builder, that's for sure.

While I used the socket that used to come in the tool kits, you could also get by with the right deep well socket and adapter(s) or, well, it's been a few years since I had to endure that one, trust me, there are worse things in life than ole #3.

If I get a chance, I'll borrow a 919 this spring and write up how to change it with "common" tools.

Good luck, be patient, or bring me your bike and I'll change it for free in exchange for some saddle time.

I'll need a passport and a plane ticket!

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I have only done it without the special tool, but after that I bought one.

My experience:

The worst part wasn't getting the plug loosened, it was getting the combination of the swivel joint, extensions, socket, (and now the plug) out of the hole with the frame right above it.

Then putting the new plug in and getting it tight wasn't a problem, but when I went to pull the tool out, the socket (with the rubber insert) kept separating from the extension.

Maybe the right combination of extensions, etc... it may have been easier, but with what I had it was a PIA.

I think the special tool is probably the right length to get around all the corners you need to as well as the extension is pinned to the socket, so it won't come loose when you are taking it off the plug.

I intend to replace my plugs at the interval as the valve clearance checks, which should make it even easier with more stuff out of the way.

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I used the cheap tool in the Honda kit. It's not that tough.

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I used the cheap tool in the Honda kit. It's not that tough.
+1 Nothing to it. Just need the wrench from the tool kit, put a little english on it and presto chango your finished.

I guess I got lucky because I went straight for the wrench in the tool kit. I wanted to try it out and see how well it actually worked before I had to rely on it out on the side the road some day. It worked.

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But I do not have a tool kit, so if needed where would one get such a tool kit?

Can it be ordered from Honda?

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On a wetter note, my fucking cat whom I treat like a little kitty queen pissed at my front door again this morning. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Several years ago I came home to find out last cat laying in the street, in front of the house, dead, hit by someone.

Tossed it in the trash, never looked back, never want cats again, they are a PIA.

I'm not sure I'll get another dog when this one passes.

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nice derail guys!


I get along ok with some cats, but they are still a PIA. I doubt I'll ever get one of my own.



-on topic, a wobble extension works pretty well with a deep-well spark plug socket.


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I havn't changed plugs yet, I do have a kit I ordered from Honda last winter, still available. We do have two cats, one of which is diabetic and requires two insulin shots every day. It'll be a few more years before I get to go on vacation...

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God, we are desperate around here resurrecting the dead.............


On a wetter note, my fucking cat whom I treat like a little kitty queen pissed at my front door again this morning. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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The worst part wasn't getting the plug loosened, it was getting the combination of the swivel joint, extensions, socket, (and now the plug) out of the hole with the frame right above it.

Then putting the new plug in and getting it tight wasn't a problem, but when I went to pull the tool out, the socket (with the rubber insert) kept separating from the extension.
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I'll use the spark plug sockets to loosen/retrieve the plugs, but not to insert for a couple of reasons.

#1 an old spark plug wire with the opposite end cut off (I'm talking the automotive type here) works great for inserting a plug into the hole and getting it started. It also helps minimize the risk of cross threading. If you've ever done that to a head, may your deity bless you but stay the [email protected]#% away from my engines

#2 If you start with #1, you don't need anything in the socket to 'grab' the plug, so use a standard deep well. Once it's all torqued down it'll pull right out!

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I'll use the spark plug sockets to loosen/retrieve the plugs, but not to insert for a couple of reasons.

#1 an old spark plug wire with the opposite end cut off (I'm talking the automotive type here) works great for inserting a plug into the hole and getting it started. It also helps minimize the risk of cross threading. If you've ever done that to a head, may your deity bless you but stay the [email protected]#% away from my engines

#2 If you start with #1, you don't need anything in the socket to 'grab' the plug, so use a standard deep well. Once it's all torqued down it'll pull right out!
Thanks beef looks like good advice. I just did my plugs in conjunction with my 32K valve checks. I had the Honda tool this time and a lot of stuff out of the way, so it was a snap.

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Hey det5lonewolf I did, it referenced the kit, but I was inquiring if the kit went away with the 919 in the Honda line.

Sorry I did not talk low level enough for you to understand.

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nice derail guys!


I get along ok with some cats, but they are still a PIA. I doubt I'll ever get one of my own.



-on topic, a wobble extension works pretty well with a deep-well spark plug socket.


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I second the wobble extension and spark plug socket works great for me. There are some times the best tools will only do and my snap on wobble extension and socket don't come apart easily as long as you put the socket on right.

I have 3 cats and get along with all of them especially the one that keeps the mice outta the garage and rat's nest outta the bike's air box. The other 2 debug the house so they all earn there keep. The 2 dogs just hog our bed and break stuff like 5 years old boys.

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I wish I would have thought of that one!!!!!
I guess I am just to nice.

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+1, no reason for that......
I agree. No need to be so childish.

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You are mellow, FMT. I saw that, I said FNG bustin' chops out of the gate needs some piss in his face. Plus, 9 posts and he's from some cum lick California boner biting chode habitat called Fair(y)field. Reminds me of a puss eater called umj............(pc incorrect alarm, pc incorrect alarm)

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But I do not have a tool kit, so if needed where would one get such a tool kit?

Can it be ordered from Honda?
In case you're still looking for a straight answer to your question: Yes, you can, but why??? Unless one thinks that having the toolkit somehow completes the bike (like I did--stupid!!! ), it's a stone waste of $40. Most of it is [email protected], except for that plug wrench--almost made it worthwhile getting the kit--almost....
The 16.5mm plug wrench is available separately from a # of suppliers. Honda Direct Line has proven (to me) to be good folks to deal with, and their prices are as good or better than most--if anyone beats their price, it's not by much. Their delivery is typically prompt and reliable. Link to the wrench (#9 in the pic, part # 89216-MAT-000, $9.98 + shipping):
http://www.hdlparts.com/fiche_sectio...007&fveh=12170
Oh, and if you really want the kit , you need to go back to model year 2005 or earlier-- they quit putting them in the '06 and later bikes (part # 89010-MCZ-000).

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In case you're still looking for a straight answer to your question: Yes, you can, but why??? Unless one thinks that having the toolkit somehow completes the bike (like I did--stupid!!! ), it's a stone waste of $40. Most of it is [email protected], except for that plug wrench--almost made it worthwhile getting the kit--almost....
The 16.5mm plug wrench is available separately from a # of suppliers. Honda Direct Line has proven (to me) to be good folks to deal with, and their prices are as good or better than most--if anyone beats their price, it's not by much. Their delivery is typically prompt and reliable. Link to the wrench (#9 in the pic, part # 89216-MAT-000, $9.98 + shipping):
http://www.hdlparts.com/fiche_sectio...007&fveh=12170
Oh, and if you really want the kit , you need to go back to model year 2005 or earlier-- they quit putting them in the '06 and later bikes (part # 89010-MCZ-000).

Hope this helps...
Thanks, that is what I was looking for.

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New addition 1978 CB750Four
2006 919
1994 home built springer
1984 KLR 600
1953 Servi-car (I gotta get this put back together)
1942 WLA (Gotta finish this one as well)
1985 Honda 200M ATC
1985 Honda ATC 70
1997 Yamaha Big Bear 350 4X4 ATV
Early 1984 Ironhead Sporty (Wife has laid claim to this bike)
1986 Sporty that I am putting a ironhead engine into
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You are mellow, FMT. I saw that, I said FNG bustin' chops out of the gate needs some piss in his face. Plus, 9 posts and he's from some cum lick California boner biting chode habitat called Fair(y)field. Reminds me of a puss eater called umj............(pc incorrect alarm, pc incorrect alarm)
I looked at his post count then looked at his join date and thought he probably just did his 7 posts with remarks just as that.

I am thick skinned, 21 years in the military, I have seen a many a Pussy's as him, and he can be a big little man behind his keyboard, If I lived closer, I would invite him out for a drink.

People tend to change their tunes when confronted face to face no matter their rank, or size.

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2006 919
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1984 KLR 600
1953 Servi-car (I gotta get this put back together)
1942 WLA (Gotta finish this one as well)
1985 Honda 200M ATC
1985 Honda ATC 70
1997 Yamaha Big Bear 350 4X4 ATV
Early 1984 Ironhead Sporty (Wife has laid claim to this bike)
1986 Sporty that I am putting a ironhead engine into
YEA BIGDAA I Gotta GUN!
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Originally Posted by Porrboy View Post
You guys do know there is an ignore feature on almost every forum right. My ignore list is quite long on most of the forums I belong to. Too many internet hard asses And I generally find it much easier and satisfying to ignore stupid.
Somebody has to be stupid first in order to warrant the ignore feature. You go and continue being a gentleman and I shall continue being the M-80 tossing miscreant.

In my opinion, the M1 rifle is the greatest battle implement ever devised.
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