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Rider Intercom Systems - What's Good?

Hey guys,

Buddy and I are gonna try and do some real trips this year.....

Looking at some of the Bluetooth Intercom Systems on the market.

Looking for feedback.... The Good, The Bad.... The Ugly


He will be on his Triumph Tiger, and me on the Speedy(unless a V-Rod drops out of the sky)......

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I like the features of the bikercom stuff but I have not actually used it. It seems to do a nice job of integrating multiple devices like radar detector, gps, ipod, phone, intercom, 2-way radio, etc.

Here is a link to a review:

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I have a Scala Rider Q2 but have not used it in bike-to-bike communication. The phone feature works great up to about 60 MPH (in my case anyway) and I expect the intercom would be about the same. It does not support A2DP so you cannot directly link an iPod or other Bluetooth MP3 player, but a simple FM transmitter plugged into the headphone jack fixes that right up. Since the Scala Rider Q2 has a built-in FM tuner (which is weak and only picks up about half the stations near me) you can tune it to your iPod/iPhone and rock out down the road.

Another good point about this setup is that it can be found pretty easily for $105 shipped to your door. I do hear there is a new version out that is much better, but is more than twice the price.

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I have a Scala Rider Q2 but have not used it in bike-to-bike communication. The phone feature works great up to about 60 MPH (in my case anyway) and I expect the intercom would be about the same. It does not support A2DP so you cannot directly link an iPod or other Bluetooth MP3 player, but a simple FM transmitter plugged into the headphone jack fixes that right up. Since the Scala Rider Q2 has a built-in FM tuner (which is weak and only picks up about half the stations near me) you can tune it to your iPod/iPhone and rock out down the road.

Another good point about this setup is that it can be found pretty easily for $105 shipped to your door. I do hear there is a new version out that is much better, but is more than twice the price.
This is one of the ones I am looking at seriously.....

We arent looking for a ton of features..... just clear bike to bike communications....

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I have a pair of F4 Interphones for the Bandit and they are fantastic. I've used a handful of different systems over the last 10 years, and these ones are the best. They are easy to set up, have great sound quality, great range, and fantastic battery life. I've actually taken phone calls for work and the person on the other end had no idea I was on the bike (and it's a good thing too!) Work like a charm for telephone, intercom, gps, and music. And built-in prioritization so, for example, music mutes when intercom or phone kicks on.



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I have a pair of F4 Interphones for the Bandit and they are fantastic. I've used a handful of different systems over the last 10 years, and these ones are the best. They are easy to set up, have great sound quality, great range, and fantastic battery life. I've actually taken phone calls for work and the person on the other end had no idea I was on the bike (and it's a good thing too!) Work like a charm for telephone, intercom, gps, and music. And built-in prioritization so, for example, music mutes when intercom or phone kicks on.



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That looks like a winner...... gonna look into this one a little more

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i have this a little pricy but i have chatted away at well over 100mph sounds great

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+1 on the Scala Rider Q2. Hope and I bought them, and they work really well bike-to-bike. I think the speakers sound a bit tinny for music, and I wish the speakers could be changed out or upgraded. I'm looking forward to seeing some non-hype reviews of their new G4 system. Altrider.com had the G4 listed for $299 I believe...

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Since all I need is a rider to passenger intercom I've been looking at one of these.
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The MOST important feature is noise cancellation via an extra sample microphone. Without that all systems are totally worthless at speed. The one gripe with autocom was their speaker pad thickness didn't fit my helmet. So instead of dremel fitting them a pocket I used their ear bud conversion cable. I want to get a kenwood radio for it. The new one has BT for cell use.

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I can say that Declan's Scala rider has great noise cancellation for the person calling him. I don't know how it is on his end, but I have talked to him many times as he's riding and you can't tell on my end that he's on a bike.

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Thanks Justin, I've been told that by a number of people. It aint perfect, but it's damn close. On my end, I can hear perfectly well, as long as I'm not going faster than about 60...then the wind noise in my helmet tends to drown out the speaker volume.

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...ear bud conversion cable...
I wish the Scala Rider Q2 had this option. I have been debating on getting some decent noise canceling ear bugs and splicing them in myself. Wonder what kind of issues I could run into there.

My reasoning is this. My wife (or whoever) can hear me fine up to 70ish MPH, but I can barely make out what they are saying and often the conversation ends with Laura frustrated that I can't hear her. I've never attempted to use it going any faster. So using the phone on the highway, where I'm most likely to answer, is almost out of the question.

If I could hear a little better, I'd have no issues. Maybe attaching eat buds, or better yet connectors for interchanging buds and the factory speakers would be a good and cheap addition.

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Thanks Justin, I've been told that by a number of people. It aint perfect, but it's damn close. On my end, I can hear perfectly well, as long as I'm not going faster than about 60...then the wind noise in my helmet tends to drown out the speaker volume.
I have the scala rider 2 also. My wife said she cant tell I am riding when she has called me. I also have trouble hearing at highway speeds. I mostly use it with the GPS, and even if I can't hear it well at least I know to look at the screen.

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I wish the Scala Rider Q2 had this option. I have been debating on getting some decent noise canceling ear bugs and splicing them in myself. Wonder what kind of issues I could run into there.
Maybe it will work.... I spliced in buds to autocom and the sound was lousy, then discovered ~1/4 impedance missmatch with stock, but their ear bud interface circuit works perfectly.

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Scala makes a newer A2DP profile set called the G4! I am planning on buying a system very soon and have been researching a lot of contenders and right now the Sena SMH10 has the lead in my book! Check out the review on web bike world and their site is Bluetooth Stereo Headset and Intercom for Motorcycles - SMH10


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me and mrs goona use the midland bt2. very nice. 100ft or so range, great phone usage, nice mp3. i also wear earplugs which helps makes the sound better. i use blue ant for my car and have enjoyed the interphone qualities. webbike world has some great reviews. enjoy

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If the MFG doesn't brag about noise cancellation then they don't have it, and not good for nakeds. Plus the claimed range ~1500' is worthless on group rides. Need a 5W transmitter with good antenna, Bluetooth mixer and in helmet noise canceling amplified buds, and button push transmit since VOX is error prone.

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Unless you really need to use your phone and /or listen to tunes, I think GMRS radios are the way to go. The setup is way cheaper with a helmet headset and PTT switch on the handlebar. The radios are cheap and readily available. They have way better range, and there is no limit to the number of users in the group.
The only downside is that you have a wire from your helmet to the radio and from the radio to the switch on the handlebar. I don't find that to be a big deal.


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Found some awesome ~$30 ear buds: jvc fx66-r for my autocom intercom. They fit snug like motorcycle show's $200 wax molded customs. We are riding 2up today and the intercom makes it much more enjoyable.

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Unless you really need to use your phone and /or listen to tunes, I think GMRS radios are the way to go. The setup is way cheaper with a helmet headset and PTT switch on the handlebar. The radios are cheap and readily available. They have way better range, and there is no limit to the number of users in the group.
The only downside is that you have a wire from your helmet to the radio and from the radio to the switch on the handlebar. I don't find that to be a big deal.


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Bingo!

Not needing anything other than rock solid bike-to-bike communication and 12hour plus talk time this was the logical choice for me. By putting the Kenwood Radio and PTT switch in/on the tank bag the wiring is limited to 1 connection (rider to bag). The distance we get from the Kenwoods is awesome and there are numerous headset/speaker options out there.

It really does come down to what features you prioritize. I had no desire for integration with anything.....so radios were the clear choice.

I'm SOL when it comes to hearing my GPS at speed though....

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Bingo!

Not needing anything other than rock solid bike-to-bike communication and 12hour plus talk time this was the logical choice for me. By putting the Kenwood Radio and PTT switch in/on the tank bag the wiring is limited to 1 connection (rider to bag). The distance we get from the Kenwoods is awesome and there are numerous headset/speaker options out there.

It really does come down to what features you prioritize. I had no desire for integration with anything.....so radios were the clear choice.

I'm SOL when it comes to hearing my GPS at speed though....
I have a couple of Kenwood 2 watt business class radios. I have speakers and a mic in my helmet and PTT switch on the handlebar.
I have only used them to talk bike to car and they work well.
All the guys I ride with are indecisive about which way they want to go.
I'm waiting until they make up their minds, but am hoping they go to this setup also.
I can get by without talking on a phone when riding.

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These latest posts have been what I am lookin for.....

We just need a basic bike to bike communications..... no frills

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Rode a tank 2up today with clear communications at 80mph, no fairing, using autocom. 2up is both more fun and safer having another pair of eyes. I need to pickup a Kenwood radio for B2B com.

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Hey, I just found what looks to be a sweet deal on this system made by Shark... has anybody used them or know if they make a good product?

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Never heard of that brand.....Scala Rider and Chatterbox are the main two companies to look at. The other thing.....the shark posted above looks HUGE like the original Chatterboxes. If you look at the new ones --- like the Chatterbox XBI-2.....they're incredibly small and less obvious on your helmet, they also pair with BlueTooth devices like an I-phone to put music in your helmet.

I'm currently running an XBI version, that I bought off of e-bay used for $90.

After using the XBI for several weeks --- I have no idea how the system could be used to talk to another person or talk on your phone at highway speeds. You'll need a very quite helmet to carry on a conversation if you're going over 50 MPH. There is a way --- you can plug in in-ear headphones to the XBI to hear better, but I have yet to try this.

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Never heard of that brand.....Scala Rider and Chatterbox are the main two companies to look at. The other thing.....the shark posted above looks HUGE like the original Chatterboxes. If you look at the new ones --- like the Chatterbox XBI-2.....they're incredibly small and less obvious on your helmet, they also pair with BlueTooth devices like an I-phone to put music in your helmet.

I'm currently running an XBI version, that I bought off of e-bay used for $90.

After using the XBI for several weeks --- I have no idea how the system could be used to talk to another person or talk on your phone at highway speeds. You'll need a very quite helmet to carry on a conversation if you're going over 50 MPH. There is a way --- you can plug in in-ear headphones to the XBI to hear better, but I have yet to try this.
I have looked at the Scala Q2... found some good prices for new on ebay, how do Scala and Chatterbox compare?

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I have a Speed Triple and my father-in-law has a Tiger as well. We have the Scala Rider G4. It works great and cancels out extraneous sound well. It gets hard to hear him when traveling 100mph+ but anything lower than that and I can communicate just fine. The radio feature suck but I find that the MP3 jack is wonderful. I have no problems with hearing the music at 3/4 volume. We had the Q2 before for about 2 years but his crapped out on our 12 states in 7 days trip after several days in pouring rain. Mine still works though. The G4 has better protection from rain. I highly recommend the Scala Rider!

I love the blutooth connectivity to the phone. It has come in handy before when he took a wrong turn and was outside of range. He didn't even have to take off his helmet. It allows you to push the button on the headset, say the verbal command, and boom I'm talking to him via phone.



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One thing I've always wondered about the Scalas: Do they work for full-face helmets? Every time I see one it's on a half or 3/4, and it looks to me like the boom mic would be in a weird spot for a F/F helmet.

edit: blech, just found in the tech specs that they are made to fit F/F helmets

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I bought the Scala Rider G4. (4 actually) And my girlfriend and parents love them. $300 a pair.

You can use them in full face helmets. if your helmet is tight to your mouth, then i suggest getting the "snowmobile" version of the g4. It has a slim microphone that Velcros to your helmet. (obviously for full face helemts only.)

If you do have a full face and a half helmet you can buy just the base for about $50


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My wife and I used to use our Q2s for bike-to-bike before we got rid of her shadow. They worked great. As long as she could see me they stayed connected.

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My buddy just picked up a Sena. One ride in, he used it b/w his passenger and himself. We'll give it a shot for bike-to-bike soon. The downside is, he had to cut the plastic rim to fit the piece to his helmets.

Not sure if Sena has different versions, but he bought the $340 2 pack version (rotary wheel).

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I did alot of reading over the winter, the Scala G4, IMO, has the best features and is compatible with Schuberth's SRC system.

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ohh and the g4's go up to 1 mile. So if your buddy takes off and ur broken down, you can still talk to them. and like rmb said, it is loaded with features. bluetooth to gps, phone, ipod touch (YEAHHH, nice motorcycle playlist). FM radio with 6 presets( works ok, bluetooth to an ipod is soo much beter than the radio). It adjusts the volume for the ambient noise, and it is very easy to link headsets.

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I have my G4 in my Scorpion EXO 400 and my mouth doesn't touch the mic.



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I have my G4 in my Scorpion EXO 400 and my mouth doesn't touch the mic.
That is awesome to hear seeing as I have the exact same helmet. Thanks!

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Interesting that this thread is going and the next day I got an email from www.compacc.com for their communications-accessories stuff

http://www.compacc.com/Accessories-Communications

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