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has anyone used one of these Vizi-tec SupaBrake?

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post #2 of 18 Old 05-02-2013, 07:50 PM
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I use a similar product from signal dynamics called "back-off xp". I use it with a license plate holder that has LEDs on the top and bottom. (I only flash the LEDs) I've used it on my 919 for maybe 8 years and i don't even think about it anymore. It works and is cheap insurance.

A friend of mine was killed while sitting at a light 20 years ago by a distracted lady and, up until using this auto pulsing thing i used to pump my brakes and stare in the mirror to see if the care behind was stopping. Now at least i don't have to pump my brakes.

If you are even worried about this a little bit then get something. But of course my kids thought it was dorky. Probably is - LOL.

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post #3 of 18 Old 05-02-2013, 08:36 PM
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has anyone used one of these Vizi-tec SupaBrake?
Saw their website. looks interesting. I was wondering the same thing.

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CUSTOMNLED has that option built into their led lights.

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I don't think I'll ever 'get' the strobing brake lights [or headlights for that matter].
I disabled all the fancy stuff on my CustomLED. I find it in itself can be a distraction for people who don't understand what's going on (and there's plenty out there behind the wheel).

I like to manually communicate with my rear brake [tapping].
whether people see it or understand is completely on their part of the social 'road-way' contact we all enter when we get behind a vehicle.

if there's one thing I learned when working in the 'safety' industry is that NO matter what you do - if someone is not paying attention, no amount of flashing/blinking/colours/sirens will stop them from smashing into things. I've even heard people say that the flashing lights themselves were a distraction and they fixated on them.

I've seen people smash into cop cars, ambulances, barrier trucks, construction signs, roadwork signs, school zone signs, other cars [all flashing] - when someone is distracted behind the wheel/bars/handles/whatever, everyone is in danger. NOTHING will stop them except themselves.

if it works for you, it works for you.

just make sure that you're not sitting there thinking "oh yeah, that's bright as all hell, they'll see me now, no matter what" - because THEY WON'T.

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just make sure that you're not sitting there thinking "oh yeah, that's bright as all hell, they'll see me now, no matter what" - because THEY WON'T.
This... I agree with you 100% Inattentive drivers will be inattentive drivers. At the end of the day, all you can do is pay attention FOR them and gtfo of the way.

Nonetheless, I use the strobe feature on my CUSTOMLED but only have it strobe 3 times before turning solid. I've found that to be the best balance in terms of observing how quick people respond to it. However, I still have people every now and them that get right up onto me where I feel like I gotta scoot out of the way and then they give me weird looks.

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This... I agree with you 100% Inattentive drivers will be inattentive drivers. At the end of the day, all you can do is pay attention FOR them and gtfo of the way.

Nonetheless, I use the strobe feature on my CUSTOMLED but only have it strobe 3 times before turning solid. I've found that to be the best balance in terms of observing how quick people respond to it. However, I still have people every now and them that get right up onto me where I feel like I gotta scoot out of the way and then they give me weird looks.
"duhhh look at that there fancy flashing gizmo never seen that before! dum dum dum"

"why is his brake flashing like that, must be something wrong with... oh shit almost hit him"

"what the hell is wrong with buddies brake li... oh shit almost hit him"

.............. "now I'll look at him, like it's his fault"

and etc...

like I said, if you like it, by all means use it! - I'm just throwing out other opinions - trying to think like the morans who seem to want to kill off our kind if you will...

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"duhhh look at that there fancy flashing gizmo never seen that before! dum dum dum"

"why is his brake flashing like that, must be something wrong with... oh shit almost hit him"

"what the hell is wrong with buddies brake li... oh shit almost hit him"

.............. "now I'll look at him, like it's his fault"

and etc...

like I said, if you like it, by all means use it! - I'm just throwing out other opinions - trying to think like the morans who seem to want to kill off our kind if you will...
Fair enough..... in retrospect:

oh look flashing lights - oh fuck I rammed a cop...

oooo shiny strobe lights - fuck i t-boned an ambulance...

and so on and so on. Means they should stop using their flashing lights?

Biggest mistake you just made is to try and think like the morOns in the first place. Gotta be smarter than them to begin with.

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Fair enough..... in retrospect:

oh look flashing lights - oh fuck I rammed a cop...

oooo shiny strobe lights - fuck i t-boned an ambulance...

and so on and so on. Means they should stop using their flashing lights?

Biggest mistake you just made is to try and think like the morOns in the first place. Gotta be smarter than them to begin with.
never said anyone should stop using strobe lights. especially emergency/construction personal. and I stated that if you like it, then use it.

I enjoy 'thinking outside of myself'.

lastly, I think we can all agree on this simple fact:

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Hi-viz gear, properly used strobes, reflective materials all swing a better chance of being seen out there. How often has an accident happened because cagers simply didn't see you? I'm not talking distracted, drunk, or anything of that sort. I'm talking honest, safety minded drivers going by the book. Plain and simple, there is safety in lowering the invisibility factor of a smaller profile motorcycle. Wether that be being seen sooner from a distance than 1 second too late or catching a driver's eye in a sea of tail lights during traffic.

Nothing is going to top being a defensive rider but eye catching effects done properly can give you better odds.

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post #11 of 18 Old 05-03-2013, 12:07 AM
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Not to side track the brake light discussion, but a few years ago I read about a real study as to why MC accidents happen.

The type of accident is the left turn in front of an MC.

The conclusion was the perceived WIDTH of the bike.

I was involved in exactly this accident (left turn in front of approaching bike). She said she only saw 1 light, so she turned in front of it.

I'm looking into some bright white lights that'll be about headlight level.

On my prior bike, I installed neon strobes under the headlight. Connected to the brake light with a 2nd switch. A small tap on the brakes would flash the front strobes, a full tap would run the brakes normal.

Got the kit for about $10.

Every time there was a car waiting to turn, I'd flash em.

Similar kit could be used for the brake lights as well.

Something like this: NEON STROBE LIGHT - RED : Amazon.com : Automotive

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I wanted to mention that these are more like a camera flash, they build up the power, then discharge the power. Think of a quick camera flash but not quite as bright.

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Not to side track the brake light discussion, but a few years ago I read about a real study as to why MC accidents happen.

The type of accident is the left turn in front of an MC.

The conclusion was the perceived WIDTH of the bike.

I was involved in exactly this accident (left turn in front of approaching bike). She said she only saw 1 light, so she turned in front of it.

I'm looking into some bright white lights that'll be about headlight level.
I've read that study before, the exact reason I go with a white and amber bulb in the dominators. Next time you see a car with amber fog lights, notice how much they stand out compared to other cars.

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I love that my CustomLED tail lamp flashes them when I first hit the brakes. Then if someone is approaching from behind, I'll hit the brakes a few more times to make sure they see it flash again.

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I just ordered an ebay hong Kong special... A $4 brake flasher unit. Two wires in, two wires out. Going to have to figure out which wires I'll splice into. I'll have to report back once it arrives and I get a chance to rip it apart. I think its supposed to only flash the first few seconds that you hit your brakes.

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I just ordered an ebay hong Kong special... A $4 brake flasher unit. Two wires in, two wires out. Going to have to figure out which wires I'll splice into. I'll have to report back once it arrives and I get a chance to rip it apart. I think its supposed to only flash the first few seconds that you hit your brakes.
Or you could just ditch the OEM unit and get yourself a purdy CUSTOMLED unit.

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Or you could just ditch the OEM unit and get yourself a purdy CUSTOMLED unit.
Sure thing, but for now I'm pretty broke. Wife left, took me to the cleaners. At least I had enough cash leftovert to buy myself a nice early midlife crisis present can't wait to get the 919 on the road next spring.

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Sure thing, but for now I'm pretty broke. Wife left, took me to the cleaners. At least I had enough cash leftovert to buy myself a nice early midlife crisis present can't wait to get the 919 on the road next spring.
Ah crap dude. That really sucks. Hope you get back on your feet quickly!

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