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Soooo. I got a ticket for 21 mph over on my way to work this morning! City cop was hiding off the road just past a 10 mph speed limit change that's at the top of a hill. Anyway, what are some good options for radar detectors on the 9er? I've got a cobra in my truck, but it seems like I would need something alittle more weather resistant. Also, I've got a Sena SMH-5 set up in my helmet so connectivity through my S4 would be awesome. Thoughts?

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A little tip. This won't always work, but the last time the Toronto radar cops stopped me, I didn't remove my helmet and wasn't asked to. The cop just took my papers to his cruiser and returned with my ticket. Trial is pending, but how will he identify me as the rider when he never compared my face to the one on the driver's licence. We shall see. Of course, I will have a friend represent me at the trial so that the cop can't ie and say he recognizes me as the rider.

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Thoughts? Forget the radar and spend the money on a traffic lawyer to fight the ticket. You'll get much better results.

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Thoughts? Forget the radar and spend the money on a traffic lawyer to fight the ticket. You'll get much better results.
Thats a good idea, but I'm looking more at preventative measures. Before anyone says it, yes I need to slow down.

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Here you in NJ you can plead guilty & pay the "no points" fine which is usually 3 - 4 times the ticket amount. What this does it doesn't add any points to your license/driving record, but your insurance does get wind of it.

Doesn't make much sense for someone with no points, but if you already have a few points because of priors; its a worthwhile "investment".

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I dont have any points just yet. Trying to figure out how and if I can get it knocked down so I can keep it that way.

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I dont have any points just yet. Trying to figure out how and if I can get it knocked down so I can keep it that way.

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No idea how it works in GA, but in NJ you plead guilty to your ticket over the phone & then get assigned a court date. On said date, there will be a line of folks just like you & the prosecutor processes them by the hords. He will offer you the no points fine or just ask you pay the regular fine & suck up the fine.

You can talk to the prosecutor & see if he will allow the same no points fine.

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I dont have any points just yet. Trying to figure out how and if I can get it knocked down so I can keep it that way.

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If you have no pints, you may want to try "guilty with explanations". You may get off with only court fees+warning or court fees+small fine+warning. You'll have to find a good reason though... Or, you can try to change the court date in the hope that the cop will not show up on the new date.

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Has anyone had any experience with this detector?
http://www.amazon.com/ADAPTIV-TECHNO...pr_product_top
Looks like a good option.

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I don't know of any detectors that are waterproof unless you box them up. I'm using a Valentine V-1 bought used for $250.00 in the car that works extremely well.



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Supposedly the one I posted a link to is. Seems like it could be a good option. Just wondering if any one has any experience with it.

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I herd cobra makes a bluetooth radar system. might be something to look into

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Thoughtful review and test of the Adaptiv radar detector:

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Get an Escort Solo 3 (I have the Solo 2, you may be able to score an earlier model used and cheap) and use it with AA batteries or AUX power plug they sell. It has a headphone out so you can plug in one of those 3.5mm to BT adapters that I've conveniently linked below to send the signal to your Sena BT and there you go, instant BT radar heads up in the helmet.


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^^ That's what I have. Have yet to use it on the bike, as I need the audio passed to my headphones somehow, and I've yet to buy a bluetooth adapter of sorts to do that.

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^^ That's what I have. Have yet to use it on the bike, as I need the audio passed to my headphones somehow, and I've yet to buy a bluetooth adapter of sorts to do that.
cobra IRAD. Bluetooth detector, compatible with iPhone and droid. Not the top of the line bit for $100 it's great. As far as waterproof goes, take it easy in the rain and just maintain the speed limit. Bluetooth is great as little speaker on regular detector is pretty much useless at speed with all that bike/road noise.

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cobra IRAD. Bluetooth detector, compatible with iPhone and droid. Not the top of the line bit for $100 it's great. As far as waterproof goes, take it easy in the rain and just maintain the speed limit. Bluetooth is great as little speaker on regular detector is pretty much useless at speed with all that bike/road noise.
Wow, I really dig that. It's got your battery voltage, gps speed, and markings on a map where speed and traffic cams are. Do you know if the speed trap and traffic cam embeds in the android GPS maps?

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Wow, I really dig that. It's got your battery voltage, gps speed, and markings on a map where speed and traffic cams are. Do you know if the speed trap and traffic cam embeds in the android GPS maps? Android version is $20 more
$70 for droid version. Not sure if it can embed into android maps, it uses its own app, crowd-sourcing which shows you other users inputs. If one wants waterproof option, look up s120r option. It's much more money but it's "install it and forget it" option

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^^^sick

Can you bluetooth to your android phone and bluetooth to a helmet communicator at the same time?

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That's what I'm worried about not working like it should.
I have music streaming from my phone to my helmet.
But i worry that if my phone is also connected to a detector, it may pick and choose what/if it sends to my helmet when something happens.
Also, if I'm using my phone to give me voice directions, is the radar app going to work properly in the background?

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If I get the chance I'd like to call viper to confirm. I feel like it will probably work since most newer cars have BT these days.

The old pairs solenoid location looks like a perfect place to hide it too

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Is it too much to ask to have:

Combined audio from:
-GPS
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-Phone (if separate from GPS)
-Music (most likely phone)
-Communicator (Sena, etc.)

With easy controls of:
-Answering phone calls (Sena)
-Speech commands (GPS - Phone)

Can all of this be done?


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My headphones are wired to my phone, and phone is in my pocket. Music, GPS, radar even phone calls (if you wish to answer, press a button on your helmet).... All work simultaneously. I do not look at it, I'm listening to it. GPS is app based, Copilot Live. Not free but the best app I tried so far. It lets you map your own route and it constantly keeps you on that route. Should you deviate from it, it will not recalculate new route but will bring you back to mapped one(unless you want it recalc of coarse). It calls out everything by name so you don't need to look at anything. This is what I have for headphones, works greathttp://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.php?t=288378

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Is it too much to ask to have:

Combined audio from:
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-Phone (if separate from GPS)
-Music (most likely phone)
-Communicator (Sena, etc.)

With easy controls of:
-Answering phone calls (Sena)
-Speech commands (GPS - Phone)

Can all of this be done?

how about a HUD tossed in for fun! It looks like the IRAD system is on the right track. They might be using the iPhone for the processing and the radar is the sensor. This could actually be used on the helmet as some kind of stick on.

Maybe we need to crowd source this.

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I checked out some reviews of the IRAD and a few of them said the Radar portion kinda sucks. It does sound like a pretty good set up, if the radar detector works well. Another concern of mine is how well the detectors will hold up to the vibrations of the 9er.

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I think it has already been mentioned, but can android connect to 2 bluetooth devices simultaneously? As in, connected to the iRAD-105 and my SMH-5 headset at the same time?

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I checked out some reviews of the IRAD and a few of them said the Radar portion kinda sucks. It does sound like a pretty good set up, if the radar detector works well. Another concern of mine is how well the detectors will hold up to the vibrations of the 9er.
what do you want for $70 It's definitely not V1 or Beltronics. But again, ANY radar detector relies on a lazy cop, who keeps his radar on all the time or maybe in steady flow of traffic scenario. One can only count that detector will pick up the radar before the radar locks your speed.
If the cop actuality doing speed enforcement properly, he will visually lock on you and than flip the radar to verify your speed. Your radar will scream like crazy but.... too late.

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how about a HUD tossed in for fun! It looks like the IRAD system is on the right track. They might be using the iPhone for the processing and the radar is the sensor. This could actually be used on the helmet as some kind of stick on.

Maybe we need to crowd source this.
Well, I'm hoping all this integrates into the new Skully helmets .

It sounds like they are trying to make it very adaptable and capable.

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Well, I'm hoping all this integrates into the new Skully helmets .

It sounds like they are trying to make it very adaptable and capable.
Looks pretty cool, although looks kind of distinctive (at least based on the video). Maybe it's due to the live rear camera view? I'm sure there will be an option to turn that off. I have a feeling this thing will be $$$$$$ mucho dinero

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Looks pretty cool, although looks kind of distinctive (at least based on the video). Maybe it's due to the live rear camera view? I'm sure there will be an option to turn that off. I have a feeling this thing will be $$$$$$ mucho dinero
Probably in the $600 range I reckon.

I'm just hoping for the beta selection. That would be sweet to test one of these babies.

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mikero : If you claim that you knew that he didn't identify you. Doesn't that put you as the rider? Just a thought.

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Back in the early 1980's, we were coming back from the Lake of the Ozarks in my 1980 Chevy Wagon, complete with fake wood trim and a then state of the art radar detector.

My girlfriend, now wife, and I were very under the weather, probably from a bad ice cube the night before (OK, we were massively hung over). We were hauling right along at about 80, a convoy of sorts behind us, rockin & a rolling -

We popped over a hill, and the highway patrol had the road blocked and were pulling us all over. They asked me to wait, and I sat there as they let every other car that was following go, after a lengthy and stern sounding warning.

The highway patrolman, looking every bit of 7 feet tall, said "Son, that's a nice radar detector you have there. Sure worked well with the airplane, didn't it".

Errrrrr, insult to injury, I drove to 60 miles to court to try and fight the ticket, arrived a day early, only option was to just pay the ticket as it was.

Points, points suck. In an expensive way.

Over the following years, I learned that radar detectors are generally excellent at telling me that I have gotten a ticket. Sometimes they give you warning, most of the time they give false alarms.

They're still a entertaining novelty.

I expect someday that everything will be tied into our personal digital devices and we'll just get tickets in the mail - ratted out by own cell phone or whatever. Maybe the authorities will just show up someday and confiscate the motorcycles of those that might occasionally express their beliefs in the Gods of horsepower and speed.

I've been gone a week, earned every single penny I made and that feels good.

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I've only had 2 speeding tickets in my life (20 years apart), but have been let go more than 10 times after the cop checked my record. Only one on the bike was 53 in a 35 zone and he let me go when he found out I was 10 years older than him.

I even got let loose by the Virginia Highway Patrol after blowing a 0.12 on a breathalyzer. At the time (1986) the limit was 0.10. I have a feeling that he thought I would be below the limit by the time he got me to the station. I was also honest when he asked if I had been drinking.

I have been extremely lucky with being pulled over by decent cops.

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Citation update:
So I had an appointment with the chief of police and brought up that where I was clocked was still a 45 and not a 35 as stated on the citation. I am very blessed. He didnt reduce the ticket...he just threw it out completely!

Still interested in a radar detector for the 9er though. Thanks for all the input so far guys.
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So I had an appointment with the chief of police and brought up that where I was clocked was still a 45 and not a 35 as stated on the citation. I am very blessed. He didnt reduce the ticket...he just threw it out completely!

Still interested in a radar detector for the 9er though. Thanks for all the input so far guys.
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If you're looking to spend money, why get a detector? Get a jammer. http://www.adaptivtechnologies.com/a...roducts_id=221

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They aren't legal anywhere in the US? Or only in the states listed that they can't ship?

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