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post #1 of 35 Old 03-13-2013, 04:12 PM Thread Starter
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New rear shock options..

Ok, looked at Ohlins for my 919/900 Hornet, can't afford it so figured I'd try a Maxton, built to suit my weight/riding style etc etc and reasonably priced too... Does anybody know if they are they still in business?
I emailed and received a reply but am still waiting on a shipping quote from them.. Have emailed them a couple more times but no reply.
I tried calling but the phone rang out and went dead??

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Maxton is out of SE Asia? If they're who I'm thinking, I saw them posting on E-bay last year around May. I'm not sure about them now but there's also Hagon out of UK. I'm sure shipping will be the same down under as it is to the States. Not sure what you'll pay for taxes though.

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Yeah they are in the UK, lots of IOM TT guys use them so figure they know their stuff.. They have a great reputation..

Yes possibly the GP10, although we didn't get as far as ordering as we seem to have lost contact so it could have been a different model.?

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Yeah they are in the UK, lots of IOM TT guys use them so figure they know their stuff.. They have a great reputation..
So I guess by that logic if they really really knew their stuff and had a better reputation the World Superbike and MotoGP guys would use them instead of Ohlins right?

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And... maybe if they had to pay for their ohlins, they would use something else

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Everybody pays for their Ohlins, even Rossi. It is well known in the industry that Ohlins does not sponsor any riders. Ironically the truth cannot be said for most other brands who do willingly give national level riders free shocks just so they can claim that a rider of that caliber is using their product.

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Well, I'll have buy something else, as I already said, Ohlins were too expensive... Maybe if I earned as much as Rossi etc I could afford buy some..

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Maybe, but you do get what you pay for and when it comes to aftermarket suspension what you are really purchasing is a greater margin of error and a larger margin of safety. Kinda hard to put a price tag on that especially when you are talking about spending 60-80% of the cost of a new Ohlins on an inferior unit.

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I understand what you are saying, but you can't really say Maxton or any other brand are inferior to Ohlins just because they are less expensive, It's all subjective..
My budget won't stretch to $1200 for an Ohlins, if it had It's possible would have bought one..
I was about to buy one of the street performance Ohlins which would have came in at similar to the Maxton ( I'm sure although it's less expensive than the bells and whistles Ohlins, it's not in any way inferior ) However, it was a 65 quid upcharge for a spring to suit my lardy fat arse..Again, my budget is kinda limited.. The Maxton would have built to my weight and riding style for a bit less money.

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No I say they are inferior as a test rider who has tested just about every brand of suspension you can think of.

You should find a better suspension tuner. I spring every shock I sell to the riders weight with no upcharge... That's just the way it should be.

PS a couple guys building you a shock simply because they do not have them pre-built and sitting on the shelf is not a custom shock... They are simply going to grab a shock body and build it up to a spec sheet for that model bike. Several other manufacturers do the same thing and the problem with that is their resource pool is so small that they have to wait for the customer to complain about the shock before they know to make changes to it etc. Individual builds are also much more subject to human error when they don't get the valve spec correct or the right jet or spacer etc. it is much easier for a guy at a bench building one shock at a time to make a mistake than an assembly worker following a set BOM for an entire production run.

Ohlins has a team of 80+ engineers, test riders , cad guys etc that have the shock completely figured out and perfected long before end users even start taking delivery of their bike in most cases.

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For the record I really do not care what suspension you buy or from who. I simply don't want you to shortchange yourself based on assumptions or half truths about the products you are interested in.

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No I say they are inferior as a test rider who has tested just about every brand of suspension you can think of.

You should find a better suspension tuner. I spring every shock I sell to the riders weight with no upcharge... That's just the way it should be.

PS a couple guys building you a shock simply because they do not have them pre-built and sitting on the shelf is not a custom shock... They are simply going to grab a shock body and build it up to a spec sheet for that model bike. Several other manufacturers do the same thing and the problem with that is their resource pool is so small that they have to wait for the customer to complain about the shock before they know to make changes to it etc. Individual builds are also much more subject to human error when they don't get the valve spec correct or the right jet or spacer etc.

Ohlins has a team of 80+ engineers, test riders , cad guys etc that have the shock completely figured out and perfected long before end users even start taking delivery of their bike in most cases.
Thats ok, you like/sell ohlins, unfortunately they were too expensive for my budget..

I'm not fussed how they make it as long as it works for me and if it's built to suit my weight/riding style, thats even better..

It's all good, you ride around on your Ohlins, I'll buy to suit my limited budget..

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An Ohlins HO201 costs about 600 quid what does the Maxton sell for?

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Whats quid and i went to the ohlins website and they dont have matches for the honda cb900f 2002...help

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I can appreciate that and I wasn't trying to get into/cause an argument, I do like the look of the Maxton gear and they do have a good reputation, I'm not sure they have lied to me in any way regarding their products.. If i can get back in contact I'll maybe find out how good their gear is.., If not then I'll have to start saving for an ohlins...., I do appreciate you advice.. .

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Does YSS have a presence locally, where you are Charly?

Operating under the same kind of budgetary restraints as you, I bought one for my 03, and it's been good.

[I'm not a test rider nor a suspension tech, so I can't define this particular "good" for you, except to say that there wasn't not much good about the early shock I took off...]

I had the YSS shock tested before I installed it to see that it was the real deal, and the techs seemed to think it tested up ok. It's been in service now for a couple of years...

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An Ohlins HO201 costs about 600 quid what does the Maxton sell for?
Not 100% sure now what I was initially quoted on because we have lost contact so couldn't move forwards, think it was $410 plus the GST but that won't matter because it's export so no GST/VAT
that was without remote adjustment, which I'd prolly confuse myself with anyways.

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Quid. british slang for pound stirling/money..



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Whats quid and i went to the ohlins website and they dont have matches for the honda cb900f 2002...help

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G00gl3it only paid 300quid for his Ohlins, but then he became a 5quid and bought a Tuono.


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I was scuba diving once an saw sick squid, so I paid back my mate a fiver an bought a lollypop with the other quid..


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Has anyone asked LDH how much he would sell the Ohlins for yet?

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Yes, that squid "joke" stank....

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Yes they do, I'm in South Oz, It runs to $700AUD for a YSS according to their website, I'd prolly look elsewhere at that kind of money .. Appreciate you mentioning it though..


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Does YSS have a presence locally, where you are Charly?

Operating under the same kind of budgetary restraints as you, I bought one for my 03, and it's been good.

[I'm not a test rider nor a suspension tech, so I can't define this particular "good" for you, except to say that there wasn't not much good about the early shock I took off...]

I had the YSS shock tested before I installed it to see that it was the real deal, and the techs seemed to think it tested up ok. It's been in service now for a couple of years...

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Yes they do, I'm in South Oz, It runs to $700AUD for a YSS according to their website, I'd prolly look elsewhere at that kind of money .. Appreciate you mentioning it though..
Yeah, fair enough, I got a new-old-stock one for a good bit less than that, which put it within my budget...

Good luck w yr search!

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A stock one from like a 06-07

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Man, my dumb ass thought you were in England instead of Down Under

Still a good deal to be had though bro.

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Nah mate I'm in Oz.. I got smart in1988 an moved over here, mind you it's been a wee bit too hot these last few weeks, woulda loved some of the old British cold and rain an snow an ice and sleet an black ice and slush, an grit and furry engine cases.. .. er.. maybe not...

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Man, my dumb ass thought you were in England instead of Down Under

Still a good deal to be had though bro.

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Wait, what's Maxton charging for their stuff? I know Hagon has theirs for around $500 shipped but the Ohlins that LDH mentions sounds like a good buy. Not sure if you know Charly but LDH is a dealer for Ohlins (Dan Kyle Racing is the company out of Cali).

If you're spending in the ball park of $400-$500, I would highly recommend waiting to save the extra $200 and get that Ohlins. If you want the bells and whistles, Ohlins with the external reservoir will run you $919 plus shipping but that's only for whatever is left on LDHs shelf. Then its back to the regular pricing.

I don't think LDH wanted to mention that he sells the stuff so it doesn't come across as a sell so there, I said it.

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Thanks, I know LDH is a dealer for Ohlins , the Maxton was quoted at 410 stirling/quid/pound not $$$'s as I earlier said..( there's no pound sign on my Aussie keyboard..)


Have this morning spoken with LDH, If I can't get any joy with contacting Maxton then I'll look at Ohlins,

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Wait, what's Maxton charging for their stuff? I know Hagon has theirs for around $500 shipped but the Ohlins that LDH mentions sounds like a good buy. Not sure if you know Charly but LDH is a dealer for Ohlins (Dan Kyle Racing is the company out of Cali).

If you're spending in the ball park of $400-$500, I would highly recommend waiting to save the extra $200 and get that Ohlins. If you want the bells and whistles, Ohlins with the external reservoir will run you $919 plus shipping but that's only for whatever is left on LDHs shelf. Then its back to the regular pricing.

I don't think LDH wanted to mention that he sells the stuff so it doesn't come across as a sell so there, I said it.

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An Ohlins HO201 costs about 600 quid what does the Maxton sell for?
I live in Oklahoma, how much is an Ohlins unit shipped in dollars? Currently in Nicaragua and won't be back till late April or early May. If the price is right I would be interested in shipping it to a friends house till I get back.

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