So i ordered some renthal ultra lows due to all the ranting n raving, hootin n hollerin about em.... as well as the fact that they were supposedly less swept back.
In short... if your looking for something thats got a significantly straighter... less pulled back profile compared to the stokers.... the renthal UL is N O T what your looking for.
If your looking for a bar that is shorter, SLIGHTLY less swept back, and possibly wider (unless you cut down) then the renthal UL is for you.
Heres the in depth......
I took the stock bars off the bike and compared to the renthal UL's. And in searching one thing i noticed is that you really cant compare pullback measurements... as that measurement is determined by multiple factors.. (angle of the bend, width of entire bar, and width of control area)... you can have one set of bars that have a huge pull back number... BUT the angle on the wrists is less because said bars are real wide, and the center clamping area is narrow. or visa versa.
While the ultra lows are a decent amount lower. (right at about 1.5in lower) almost all the other angles were nearly the same. The rise of the inner and outer part of the control area... as well as the sweep back angle.
Here are the bars next to eachother. They are both laid flat on the desk ends pointing up and center clamping areas parallel. Note how the angle for the rise between the end of the bar and top bend is literally the same. ... the grip area angle in relation to the clamping area is what im talking about (the UL's rise JUST A SMIDGEN more so than the stockers think about 1-2*...its so little its not easily seen and pointless to the real reason i bought em... less pull back)
Here is a straight on view with the bars positioned as above.... This view gets you an idea of the pull back. Note how the stockers are narrower in all aspects they initially bend up from the clamping area quicker and then start the pull back sooner than the UL's. Either way... notice the small change in pullback angle vs the ultra lows
And an overall view as positioned two pics up.
Now to make things intresting i lined up the bars so that they were even when they started the pull back bend.... clamping areas still parallel. This will let us see the real MEASURABLE difference in pullback.
And heres that difference..... right at about half of the width of the bar.... or 7/16ths of an inch. Not much of a difference at all and as such, its going to be not much of a difference on the wrists. In fact i got out a compass to measure the actual pullback angle.... we are talking about all of a 4* difference in angle.
Needless to say i dont think ill even bother putting them on the bike as i was looking for more of a drastic change.... i have some protaper contour (fat bars) Carmichael bend's that have MUCH less pull back that i might buy some adaptors for and try out.
Wonder if my buddies shop accepts returns haha.