Did a search and saw someone else posting the wooden stick trick! Also saw the one using a rod in the centerstand holes and a bottle jack, that was cool too. Marylandmike, I found I could even use a piece of 1x2 to lift the bike if I had to. Well its all good the rubber tips are my addition, and tying the front brake down really helps. Barton, are you talking about cinder blocks under the exhaust at the rear of the bike or somewhere under the bike?? sounds interesting.