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post #1 of 31 Old 12-16-2016, 04:03 PM Thread Starter
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HEED crash bars for 919?

Has anyone had any experience with these? They come out of Europe, found them on ebay.

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post #2 of 31 Old 12-16-2016, 07:14 PM
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I'm computer illiterate. I wouldn't have a clue how to post a link. I found them searching for honda cb900 hornet crash bars on ebay. I found them also doing a Google search. I will get some more info, Web site etc.

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Yep, that's them. Well done. They look good just don't know if they offer same protection as SW-Motech. Also are they robust, any vibration,cracking issues?

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They look nice, look to be a copy of the Givi bars that are no longer available. I hope they use better material and welding processes, I had problems with the Givi's.

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Correct me If I'm wrong.
I think the givi bars had an engine mount point at the front. These HEED bars seem to only mount to the frame at the same mounting point. Don't know if that's a good or bad thing. Maybe less vibes or less chance to break engine mount.
I'll wait a bit see if anyone's used em before, but unless someone says they are crap, I'll probably get a set. I almost dropped my bike yesterday. Thought I pop a wheelstand leaving a mates place. Instead, in second gear, the rear spun on loose road top and the back end went wide and low. I also need a new seat, mine is soiled and has a butt clench chunk missing out of it.

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Just read a good review. Apparently don't have the vibration issues like givi and SW motech might have.
I have emailed HEED and am waiting on a reply. I want to know if the front frame mount has a bolt running right through the frame out the other side? I wonder if a slider would fit as well?
They seem to be going for around 115 euros. However much that is, around 200 australian dollars I think. Happy to wait till after the Christmas madness. Will ask HEED about a discount on multiple orders. Will post their reply.
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Check these out. From china.
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Previous post is link to chinese crash bars. Had to get my 14 yr old daughter to do the link cause I'm an idiot. Cheers.

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Those heed bars do look just like the givi bars I had on my 02 I'd be down for a set if there was a group but discount that would be 121usd +\-

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They look very similar but the givi mounts to both the frame and engine. Giving a more solid feel and protection. Mounting to just the frame will allow the mount point to bend, it looks like.

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Soooo... perhaps not as solid fitting as the givi bars. Is that good or bad. Could explain why the givi bars vibrated.

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Soooo... perhaps not as solid fitting as the givi bars. Is that good or bad. Could explain why the givi bars vibrated.
I didn't have issues with 2 different sets of givi bars. 1 was crash tested via broadside with a pick up truck and the other was grinded repeatedly on the track over several track days. Both sets have moved onto their 2nd 919 with no issues that i know if. No breaks or anything of the sort. I think it's more of a quality control issue than anything.

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I've emailed HEED regarding the difference between the front mount on theirs and Givi's bars. Also whether this will affect structural integrity in a crash. At least I will have their opinion. I'll let you know what the reply is. Too bad someone hasn't "crash tested" a set of HEED bars out.
I wouldn't like a set of crash bars that fail to protect the engine.

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How do the givi bars mount to the frame? where the engine/frame mount is. Is there a rod that goes all the way through, out the other side?
Would that single frame mount point on the HEED bars cause the mount or bars themselves to collapse onto engine?

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That's correct, on the frame givi has you use a threaded rod that it attaches to. The bracket that attaches to the frame also shares the same anchor point for the engine mount. The engine doesn't flex in that area anyways due to how it's mounted to the frame.

In my experience, the amount of vibrations are caused largely by the stupid spacer that connects the two halfs together under the engine. That damn thing is too small and just rattles around like crazy. People have commented that they thought something was wrong with the engine, it was that bad. I've tried rvt, sealant, etc. I eventually gave up and after a fresh dab of rvt, I zip tied it into place.

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Thanks Pvester. The HEED bars also have a join near the oil filter. Looks to be bolted together with small tabs welded on the bar ends. I am concerned about the single frame mount ,as compared to Givi's frame and engine mount. But I can't get Givi's anymore and I don't like the look of the SW Motech bars. Also good job Pvester on the pc111usb map Pvester 919 Gen 2 Sato. I'm using the low values ,2250 RPM to 5 TP, to smooth out low throttle across several maps. Cheers.

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post #22 of 31 Old 03-29-2017, 08:39 AM
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HEED crashbars are somewhat famous on advrider forum. Many people swear by them on BMW, KTM adventure bikes. I just ordered a set for my GS. If that turned out to be ok I will also get the set for the hornet.

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Highlight. Do us a favor. If you do get some crash bars for your 919 post some pictures of them. I'm still a ways off getting some and would like a look. Your opinions also. Cheers mate.

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create a poll for people interested in group buy ? I'd be down.

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Yeah I contacted HEED and they said they would do a group discount. That's as far as I got.
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Got my HEED crash bars last week. Painted them the same gunmetal black as the bike. They came powder coat gloss black. They fitted well. No vibrations. All good. Nice low profile as well.
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that looks good but isn't it harder to change the oil filter now ? :P

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Still just as easy to get at that oil filter. I took a better pic showing it.
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I've noticed a problem with my HEED crash bars. The gear change lever, on engine, when down shifting will just touch on the crash bar mount. It's after the point of gear selection so it all works. Just annoying. The pic shows the gear lever in full down select position.
I can move the gear lever around one spline but I don't like the linkage setup in that position. I have my gear lever quite low.
I could bend and grind parts but am reluctant. Think I'll live with it as it doesn't affect the gear change. Just thought I might mention it in case someone was considering these bars.
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The shift rod is adjustable in length. You can move the lever one spline, shorten the shift rod (just loosen the two nuts (8mm?) and turn the shift rod) and you can adjust the shift lever back to the position you like.
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If I shift it one spline round the gear lever ends up too high. Then to get it low again I have to wind a heap of thread out of the adjustable link rod. Gear levers end up not at 90 degrees and the link rod wound almost all the way out. I like my foot gear lever very low.
I got options. Bent and grind, adjust lever higher or live with it. The last option is looking good.

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