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post #1 of 28 Old 12-22-2011, 08:22 AM Thread Starter
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"Hard" clutch

So my friends all tell me that I must have HULK type strength to pull my lever... has always been like this for the years I have owned my bike. I ride year round here in the PacNW (rains all the time) and do oil the cable - doesn't help thou.

Anyone have exp with the lifter arm and/or needle bearings going bad?
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post #2 of 28 Old 12-22-2011, 08:35 AM
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Try replacing the cable - one that has frayed internally can look good but be hard to operate. It's cheap enough, even from the dealer.

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First off that 919 is sick

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First off that 919 is sick
damn right that is one slick 919!

as far as the clutch... the 919 definitely has a harder clutch than other bikes.

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First off that 919 is sick
chain caught my eye...

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That thing is no where near a stock '02 niner. Did you buy it that way and just don't know any different?

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Nice lookin' bike! It looks like your gear selector lever may be adjusted a bit low? Looks like it would hit ground before your peg feelers would, that would not be a good thing!

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Try replacing the cable - one that has frayed internally can look good but be hard to operate. It's cheap enough, even from the dealer.
Don't forget to lube the lever pivot and don't over tighten the retaining nut underneath.

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damn right that is one slick 919!

as far as the clutch... the 919 definitely has a harder clutch than other bikes.

Gotta disagree, mine has a light clutch, and so did the one I test rode back in 2002. Not feeling the heavy.

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Very nice looking bike. Love the wheel color.

One thing I noticed is aftermarket bars which may set the clutch lever further away. I saved the pic and zoomed in on the cable and it looks very tight unless I am looking at it wrong. Maybe the cable is too short for the aftermarket bar configuration. Maybe you can reroute or find a longer cable.
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Very nice looking bike. Love the wheel color.

One thing I noticed is aftermarket bars which may set the clutch lever further away. I saved the pic and zoomed in on the cable and it looks very tight unless I am looking at it wrong. Maybe the cable is too short for the aftermarket bar configuration. Maybe you can reroute or find a longer cable.
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Yeah, my clutch is light... I also noticed engine sliders..

Very, very nice looking bike..

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the chain would be my biggest worry right now it looks pretty done.

my 919s clutch was pretty light to me. It seems to me if some thing was causing lots of pull on it it wouldn't let out fast enough it enough at all if it was that hard to pull do to bad cable or bearings.

Did you buy it all done up maybe the previous owner decided to put heavy springs in it. No idea why you would with serious engine mos first but maybe they did.

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I would say my clutch feels a little heavy, but all I have to compare it to is the 599.

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Nice lookin 9er! Clutch to me isn't super heavy... but it is on the heavy side compared to most motorcycles. It does seem like you've stretched the cable fully, how much slack do you have on the lever?

Now I gotta ask, what bracket are you using for the dominators + windscreen? Those look like something out of a Buell (XB9?), but if I remember correctly, their windscreen mounted directly to a housing for the cluster. I have dominators and the same windscreen, still need to find a proper mount or fabricate one.

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I get easy, one-finger pulls, especially right after a cable lube. I agree with Mike that you might have some stress on the cable with those high, wide bars, or perhaps bad routing.

Nice looking bike, but that chain is in real bad shape!

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Wow... gunna take me a cpl days to rsp back, many thanks for the compliments!

On another note, I actually became a member when I 1st bought the bike years ago but couldn't find my login info - so I created the new account last night.

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Try replacing the cable - one that has frayed internally can look good but be hard to operate. It's cheap enough, even from the dealer.
I had the cable disconnected the other day, it slides both directions with ease.

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chain caught my eye...
Mine too (every time I see the bike, was nice and bling,bling at one point)... pretty poor right now and can't afford a new one, adj is pretty much at MAX. I ride this bitch year round, def not into the "fair weather" rider type of bike ownership. lolz

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That thing is no where near a stock '02 niner. Did you buy it that way and just don't know any different?
I guess my "sig" was intended to be a punn... don't think anyone got it! No I didn't do all the mods, some of them - am the 3rd owner technically.

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Nice lookin' bike! It looks like your gear selector lever may be adjusted a bit low? Looks like it would hit ground before your peg feelers would, that would not be a good thing!
haha ... I have had my left foot ripped off a cpl times, but the geometry of my rearset(s) has the spacing off between the peg and the shift lever, any higher and it's a bit to awkard! Nun of you guys noticed my mounts and missing 2nd rider pegs (that would go down for what I HATE most about my 919!)

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Very nice looking bike. Love the wheel color.
One thing I noticed is aftermarket bars which may set the clutch lever further away. I saved the pic and zoomed in on the cable and it looks very tight unless I am looking at it wrong. Maybe the cable is too short for the aftermarket bar configuration. Maybe you can reroute or find a longer cable.
Yeah, fell in LOVE when I 1st saw the bike! Honestly, I probably get a dozen nods, comments, or thumbs up from fellow motorists.
The renthals (can post a close-up if wanted) but I don't think the cable is short... lots of adj room on top/bottom points, IIRC OEM is higher anyways.

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Yeah, my clutch is light... I also noticed engine sliders..
Very, very nice looking bike..
Thanks man... since have moved them to the frame just in front.

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... how much slack do you have on the lever?
Now I gotta ask, what bracket are you using for the dominators + windscreen? Those look like something out of a Buell (XB9?), but if I remember correctly, their windscreen mounted directly to a housing for the cluster. I have dominators and the same windscreen, still need to find a proper mount or fabricate one.
Oh and welcome to the forum! You've come to the right place all the 919 info
3/8 or so... whatever the manual says. Just took that pic for ya, feel free to hook me up later.

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marylandmike : the cable has plenty of free play (ie. length), maybe 2-3" or more if I pull below the elbow

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Very nice looking bike. Love the wheel color.
One thing I noticed is aftermarket bars which may set the clutch lever further away. I saved the pic and zoomed in on the cable and it looks very tight unless I am looking at it wrong. Maybe the cable is too short for the aftermarket bar configuration. Maybe you can reroute or find a longer cable.
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heya pdx-luda, welcome "back" are you in pdx as your name implies? if so, we should meet up. great looking 9ner. mine is VERY dirty from riding in the rain the last few months and having no time to clean it up. like you, i commute on my 9ner year round.

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A frayed cable can be crappy under load and fine when free, something to think about.

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So where did you buy that rear cowl? I want wunna dose

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heya pdx-luda, welcome "back" are you in pdx as your name implies? if so, we should meet up. great looking 9ner. mine is VERY dirty from riding in the rain the last few months and having no time to clean it up. like you, i commute on my 9ner year round.
Thanks!

Yup, West sider... live in Beaverton and work in Tigard area. Mine too, I usually spray the bike down weekly all thou the rim's get shined daily.

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So in summary, most of you guys seem to think it's a cable issue. Right?

Needle bearings can't be that expensive, might just throw new one's in just for kicks (maybe a new cable too).

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I replaced my cable last year. It was feeling a little stiff and the bike had a out 85K miles on it. I figured for $20 I may as well. I would rather replace
it every 5-6 years then try to lube it. Money well spent. Just make sure to take are of the throttle cables. They are a nightmare to replace!

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Yup, West sider... live in Beaverton and work in Tigard area. Mine too, I usually spray the bike down weekly all thou the rim's get shined daily.
the irony.... used to live in beaverton up until last month then moved up to vancouver when i got married. in pdx all the time though as i attend PSU currently. if you want to compare clutch feel, lets meet up over the next few days after christmas and you can compare to my 919 (my second one).

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Sure... that'd be way cool!

Pretty much booked till then anyways... normally a wknd P/T dad, but had them since last week and will till Sunday night.

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