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post #1 of 26 Old 06-09-2009, 08:43 AM Thread Starter
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So I walk in the local Cycle Gear thinking I could pick up a set of bars, go home, crack open a cold beer, and inside of 15 minutes have them installed. WRONG! The handle bar world has nearly an infinite number of options when it comes to bend, rise, pull back etc. I know that the Renthal ULs are the common swap, and thats exactly what I asked for. Basically, I was told that there was not a standard Renthal Ultra Low bar. I was also told that there was no bar end weights for the aftermarket bars??? My questions are...

1. What is the common bar swap for the 919?

2. Are weights required?

3. Steel or Aluminum bars?

4. Will the ULs maintain a comfortable seating posture for long trips?

5. Any suggestions on grips?


Thanks in advance for any help.

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Basically, I was told that there was not a standard Renthal Ultra Low bar.
I thought a Renthal Ultra Low was a Renthal Ultra Low

I'm using a Renthal Ultra Low (the standard one) with Pro-Grip 719's and bar end mirrors I picked up at CycleGear - so no bar ends for me as I don't know how to incorporate bar ends & mirrors into the same hole.

I DO experience some vibration from the Ultra Lows that I have (they're aluminum, BTW) but the ergos are quite comfortable. I've hopefully got some pics I took of a side-by-side comparison with my stock bars when I replaced 'em which show the sweep angle is the same (+/- 1 or 2 degrees) as stock, but the hight is about 1.5 - 2 inches lower.

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Thanks. I too was under the impression that a Renthal UL was a Renthal UL, but that was not the case according to the guy at Cycle Gear yesterday. He really complicated the heck out of a seemingly easy mod

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One more thing, the Renthal UL's are wider than stock. I can't remember what I hacked off of them to shorten them to stock length, but I think it was 1.25 off each end.

Don't forget to pre-drill. Measure the hole from the end of the bar on the stock bars & then apply the same measurement to the ULs.

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Here are Renthal Ultra lows with Rizoma Sport grips and ends... Nice set up for me, vibes bothered me a lot with the stock setup
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Ultra Low's

I installed the Renthal Ultra Lows predrilling the bars. I agree that the ergos are much improved. I also added CRG LS barend mirrors. The bike has a cafe racer look to it but with a more comfortable riding position. I don't have much vibration probably due to the weight of the barend mirrors. I'll try to post some pics later.

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Renthal ULs are most common

I too use progrip 719s

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I'm running the UL's also with ProGrips, I've installed the G2 Ergo inserts and billet caps, vibration doesn't seem to be all that bad but I have toyed with the idea of installing a barsnake just to see if there's any difference.

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I stopped by the local Honda dealer on my way home yesterday and picked up a set of Pro Taper bars that appeared to have similar dimensions as the Renthal ULs. I would have went with the ULs but they had this bar in stock, and well, I hate waiting . The guy that sold them to me has a 599 with the same ProTapers on it and he swore that they were the best thing he's ever done to his bike. I only have about a 2.5 mile commute to work and thats all it took for me to want my stock bars back. The ProTapers just seem too low and wide and them made my wrists hurt just after a few minutes. I think what I am aiming for is a bar that is very close to stock, only slightly wider.

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I have Rizoma bars from PJ's, they're slightly lower than stock and wider, I find them very comfortable.
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Renthal has other bar options that aren't as low as their ultra low.

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I cant help but notice, from the pictures.. these bars dont actually look any lower then stock? How much lower are they exactly?

They seem to have the appearance of being lower maybe, by having that smooth bend near the clamps instead of a 90 degree, but what is the actual drop? or is Ultra low just the generic name, not actually signifying it will be lower then stock? lol

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So I walk in the local Cycle Gear thinking I could pick up a set of bars, go home, crack open a cold beer, and inside of 15 minutes have them installed. WRONG! The handle bar world has nearly an infinite number of options when it comes to bend, rise, pull back etc. I know that the Renthal ULs are the common swap, and thats exactly what I asked for. Basically, I was told that there was not a standard Renthal Ultra Low bar. I was also told that there was no bar end weights for the aftermarket bars??? My questions are...

1. What is the common bar swap for the 919?

2. Are weights required?

3. Steel or Aluminum bars?

4. Will the ULs maintain a comfortable seating posture for long trips?

5. Any suggestions on grips?


Thanks in advance for any help.
Let's see more pics of everyones handlebar set-ups. Levers, Mirrors, Bars grips etc. I have bar-end mirrors currently to get those retro stockers out of the way. But want to see some other options for changes.
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Here is my ProTaper setup. A new set of Tuono mirrors are on the way and should make it by Friday. BTW, the Tuono mirrors look really good and for $20 each, was a good choice IMO.
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Are those just off-road bars?

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Yes they are off road bars. I questioned both Cycle Gear and the Honda dealer's parts guy as to what the difference was between road and off-road bars and they both said that there was no difference.

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Just got back from a 45 minute lunch break ride...I will be taking the bars off tonight. At least now I better know what to look for. I plan on riding to MotoGP in August and I cant see riding out of town with these bars, much less to MotoGP from Louisiana. I may shop around this afternoon for another bar but for now I am leaning towards the stock bars. I only wish they were a tad wider

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Just got back from a 45 minute lunch break ride...I will be taking the bars off tonight. At least now I better know what to look for. I plan on riding to MotoGP in August and I cant see riding out of town with these bars, much less to MotoGP from Louisiana. I may shop around this afternoon for another bar but for now I am leaning towards the stock bars. I only wish they were a tad wider
You can check mine out at MotoGP.

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You can check mine out at MotoGP.

Awesome, thanks! Thats one hellova nice Rizoma setup ya go there.

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Awesome, thanks! Thats one hellova nice Rizoma setup ya go there.
The bars are very reasonably priced, grips and bar ends not too bad. Mirrors are another matter.

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The bars are very reasonably priced, grips and bar ends not too bad. Mirrors are another matter.

Mirrors I have on the way. I just need bars and bar ends if necessary. Where can I browse their stuff? Rizoma.com has nothing.

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Mirrors I have on the way. I just need bars and bar ends if necessary. Where can I browse their stuff? Rizoma.com has nothing.
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FYI Renthal has something called Ultra Lows and Mids, these have specific dimensions.

Renthal also offers many other bars with varying dimensions that fall above, below and between the dimensions of the ULs and/or Mids.

There is also yet another type of Renthal known as a Road Bar but I think it was only available overseas.

Check the Dimension chart in the "cool stuff" of the Naked section for more detail.

These Renthals all have the thicker aluminum bar but are not the "fat" bars.

Pro Tapers are also a nice option.

Generally speaking, if you do not cut the bars down, you will be lower and wider than a stock 9r bar. Wider is nice for me, more comfortable. I preferred the mids to the ULs as the extra width (w/o cutting down) also lower my posture a bit.

Now that I'm getting older, I'm thinking of going w/ mini apes.

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FYI Renthal has something called Ultra Lows and Mids, these have specific dimensions.

Renthal also offers many other bars with varying dimensions that fall above, below and between the dimensions of the ULs and/or Mids.

There is also yet another type of Renthal known as a Road Bar but I think it was only available overseas.

Check the Dimension chart in the "cool stuff" of the Naked section for more detail.

These Renthals all have the thicker aluminum bar but are not the "fat" bars.

Pro Tapers are also a nice option.


Generally speaking, if you do not cut the bars down, you will be lower and wider than a stock 9r bar. Wider is nice for me, more comfortable. I preferred the mids to the ULs as the extra width (w/o cutting down) also lower my posture a bit.

Now that I'm getting older, I'm thinking of going w/ mini apes.


I ordered Renthal Road Mediums yesterday. I compared the measurements on many bars and the Renthal Mediums seemed to be exactly what I was looking for. The stock bars are 660mm wide, the ProTapers were 800mm which was too wide, but the Renthals were 725mm which I found to be a good medium. Thanks for all the help!

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No aluminum

Vibration will be worse than with steel. Extra heavy universal bar end weights will cause metal fatigue. Go steel or chrome-molly alloy!

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i went with a set of renthal road bars medium in gray thaay are almost stock but a little wider i cut off a 1/2 inch from each end drilled and installed love em. but bar ends are my issiue the ones i seem to like wont fit i have become good at making them fit.

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