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Extra lighting on the cheap?

Well in my quest for some extra lighting i might be ending up playing around with a relay setup that will allow me to turn the low beam on while the high beam is on for some more close to the bike flood.

That stated. i have considered also getting a small LED light bar like this

15W LED Spot Beam Work Light Off Road Lamp Truck Jeep 4WD SUV Driving Roof Bar | eBay

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Spot 18W LED Work Bar Light Slim Off Road Car Truck ATV UTV Fog Driving Lamp | eBay

and mounting it either over or under the stock light for some extra light. Any experience with the such, or extra running lights that are small?

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another too much light / blind other people thread? lol

you want extra light, are you looking for distance or width or more light for people to see you? These lights look like they would help a little with extra light in a wide type pattern, but depth wise, you get what you pay for.

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this would mainly be for solo canyon riding at night. for extra visibility.

I have noticed with the stock headlight the highbeam actually does a pretty good job with distance. But leaves the mid to close field rather dull, running both the high and low beam at the same time creates a pretty damned nice pattern. But i was wondering if maybe an extra lil lightbar would allow a better mid to close flood. Those light bars come in a couple of variants of 90* and 25-30* light pattern.

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I have considered the possibility of using something like these mini auxiliary lights to trigger on/off using a tilt sensor to light up the corners on night rides....just an idea so far.

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I ride a lot at night in the country. Stock light is rubbish. Ive got a +90 bulb and its still rubbish. So im looking at these, Driving Lights - 2x LED Kit | Trade Me

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I like the idea of the light bar. I bet, depending on how and where you mount it, it would look really cool. Keep us posted on what you decided, if you find a light bar with desent output, I may try this out too.

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Same here. Do it nd!

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And update?

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I have all the "down the road" illumination I need and it was cheap too. The weird thing is I rarely get flashed.
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i think im going to go for the 18w lightbar for shits n giggles.... going to order some different h4 bulbs first to see if i like the change, and or make the harness to where the low beam is always on so low and high beam can run at the same time. but the 18w lightbar linked in the top is pefect size for above or below the headlight.

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i think im going to go for the 18w lightbar for shits n giggles.... going to order some different h4 bulbs first to see if i like the change, and or make the harness to where the low beam is always on so low and high beam can run at the same time. but the 18w lightbar linked in the top is pefect size for above or below the headlight.
Cant wait to see!

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well i said screw it.... i shouldnt be allowed on ebay after 8pm as i just end up buying stuff.

bought the 6 x 3w (18w total) led lightbar. we will see how bright it is. just under 27 bucks shipped.

Also grabbed 2 h4 100/90w bulbs for just under 3 bucks shipped...

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Cool. Get some pics up of the light output when you get it all installed.

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Cool. Get some pics up of the light output when you get it all installed.
will do.

Did some measurements and the 18w 6 led bar is actually smaller in depth compared to the 15w 5 led bar... so i should be able to mount it under the stock headlight so its tucked away. It shall be interesting.

If it doesnt work out i can always throw it on my CRF250X that desperately needs some extra lighting.

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Nd4, pretty much the same problem with my B-king... great bright light but dim is pretty worthless. look forward to seeing your finished results. I may also have to go down to sour lake and see my buddy ken phenix. looking forward to your follow up and pictures ND4. lew

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yeah i have a couple of things i am going to try.

1. Stock 55/60w bulb, with both high n low beam running... this will get me the far distance lighting and the nice close flood of the low beam... Price a relay and some wire.

2. Throw a 90/100w bulb in and run in stock configuration... price = 2.98 shipped for 2 bulbs from ebay.

3. Aditional led light bar with some combination of above...

I dont think i will ever run the 90/100 bulb in configuration 1 as 190w of heat is more than enough to probably melt the housing.

We will see what i like best and if the led bar is worthwhile / fits.

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"90/100w" bulbs and led bar showed up today.

90/100w bulbs are " " above as they are no more bright than the 55/60w stock bulb. No biggie thats what i figured i would get for 2.98 for two of them.


The light bar however.... brighter than the 60w stock high beam... which is pretty darn good for only a lil 6 LED light bar!!!

Now to figure out where i want to mount her (top or bottom of the headlight will work well, though TWO of them would be perfect verticle above the blinkers!!!). And also wiring... i know im going to have it on a switch but i also ponder the idea of a relay on the horn switch as well. hehe.

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I vote horn. Its useless and get in my way when I'm cancelling my turn signals! Curiosities in my head on what you mean by two above turn signals. Waiting for pics!

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I vote horn. Its useless and get in my way when I'm cancelling my turn signals! Curiosities in my head on what you mean by two above turn signals. Waiting for pics!
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I rarely honk. I just rev it up to 8k, usually people get the hint.

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Nice work, looks really good dave. What lights are you using there?

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Nice work, looks really good dave. What lights are you using there?
Some Autozone dusty box discount specials. I think they are pilot brand.

I'm not super impressed with light output, they might only be 35 watt - there's no indication of wattage rating on the box.

But for a proof of concept, pretty good result I think.

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FYI i realized that the lens inside the led light bar itself was flopping around inside my LED bar i just bought.

The ebay seller was very nice and has shipped me another one and did not ask for the defective one back. I should be able to fix this one as well.... oooo the ideas haha.

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FYI i realized that the lens inside the led light bar itself was flopping around inside my LED bar i just bought.

The ebay seller was very nice and has shipped me another one and did not ask for the defective one back. I should be able to fix this one as well.... oooo the ideas haha.
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Looking at the measuring tape... and if i have measured right... i can mount it under the headlight bucket 1/4inch below and 1/2 back from the front lip... and have 1/4in of clearance under full compression of the suspension.

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Looking at the measuring tape... and if i have measured right... i can mount it under the headlight bucket 1/4inch below and 1/2 back from the front lip... and have 1/4in of clearance under full compression of the suspension.
DO it NOW!

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it might be on the agenda tomorrow... if i dont pull her out and go fuck it and go for a ride haha

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it might be on the agenda tomorrow... if i dont pull her out and go fuck it and go for a ride haha
When I finally got my bike back after waiting 2 frikkn weeks, i rode it for 3 strait hrs almost lol.

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Got down to brass tax today and mounted up the light bar. Oh its so sweet.

Notes. this is the preliminary setup, with the lightbar that i took the clear lens out of to reglue the reflector in. I have another good lightbar that i will mount up once i paint the bracket i made as well as get the wiring how i want it. At the moment the lightbar comes on with the high beam.

And yup there is plenty of room on full compression and the front fender... ~ 3/4 of an inch to be exact.
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Got down to brass tax today and mounted up the light bar. Oh its so sweet.

Notes. this is the preliminary setup, with the lightbar that i took the clear lens out of to reglue the reflector in. I have another good lightbar that i will mount up once i paint the bracket i made as well as get the wiring how i want it. At the moment the lightbar comes on with the high beam.

And yup there is plenty of room on full compression and the front fender... ~ 3/4 of an inch to be exact.
Cool beans! Let's get a frontal shot as well.

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Some of them LED lightbars are crazy bright, looks pretty good...

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Cool, how much for the defective one? I'll buy it if its reasonable lol.

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Cool, how much for the defective one? I'll buy it if its reasonable lol.
the new ones are 26 bucks n change shipped!

I am in the process of "fixing" the defective one. I have already properly glued the chrome reflector back in place. Now I just gotta cut out a piece of plexi glass and glue that on the front and seal it up. This one will probably go on the dirtbike for night desert riding.

The good one will go on the 9er.

I got a chance to run it tonight. and i must say. EXACTLY what i was going for. a nice flood of the close to mid range that just the high beam leaves out as well as an overall flood of everything. Definetly and addition thats staying.

More pics to come. and more details on my final wiring setup.... which is definitely going to include the relay being activated by the horn. But also im thinking by the switching of the high beam as well as a switch to turn it on at any time.

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Just found exactly the same light for sale here. This may be my next mod.

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Link is in the original post for the 18w led light bar I used.

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Running the two filaments of the H4 bulb at the same time wouldn't be too much for it? And the same for the circuitry. I think it's designed for carrying 60w at the time, not 115w. I'm thinking too in the reflective housing of the headlight, perhaps it's too much hot for it.

I usually use the beam button to activate both filaments and see in the corners, but i don't dare to make it permanent.

In other hand, i'd like to put two led "fog" lights, but here's imposible without a CE mark, and even with that it's difficult to get "MOT" approved.

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Running the two filaments of the H4 bulb at the same time wouldn't be too much for it? And the same for the circuitry. I think it's designed for carrying 60w at the time, not 115w. I'm thinking too in the reflective housing of the headlight, perhaps it's too much hot for it.

I usually use the beam button to activate both filaments
I pulled the spring out of my button and I now use as my highbeam. Figure it wont get to hot as its only on at night and when Im travelling at speed so the light get cold.

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That and I am about to wire the low beam up with a relay directly to the battery. Now I just gotta figure out which new h4 bulb I want to run.

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