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post #1 of 44 Old 01-23-2014, 07:20 PM Thread Starter
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Share some "Made in China" parts failures.

These are rizoma knock offs from ebay. Tonight my Chinese bar end mirrors became loose so I tightened them.



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Don't knock the Chinese for making a cheap part cheap.
If you spend $15 for a $75 part and it breaks, that's the risk you take.
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Don't knock the Chinese for making a cheap part cheap.
If you spend $15 for a $75 part and it breaks, that's the risk you take.
yeah, where's the surprise ?
castings versus machined or formed and machined
1/2 a step away from pot metal
fasteners good for one go with a hex key - maybe
not all of it is like that, put penny pricing for buck parts is a warning, not a deal

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Lesson is, when buying Chinese knockoffs at 1/4 of the price, buy 2 sets. You're still getting 50% off you cheap bastard!!

Haha jk, well not really because they're so damn cheap you can have backup sets and still pay less than 1 'original' set. I wouldn't trust essential parts though... I wonder how leatherwings is doing with his Chinese wave rotors.

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I trust quality Chinese made things. but sadly, American companies take an item that takes 1 hour and $10 to make, and ask a Chinese company to make the same item in half the time and at 1/10 the cost.

In the end, the Chinese are blamed for putting out what we asked them to make. Junk.

I'm typing this message from my awesome HP Chrome book, and the message before was my Ipad, both high quality items made in China.
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I'm Jewish and don't find $36 to be cheap!

Actually they've done quite well by me. The mirrors have been on my bike for 34,000 miles, were rattled to death on dirt roads in Costa Rica, and was been hit by a few rocks from rock slinging semi's. I'll get them again before getting a $122 rizoma mirror (note lack of plural word usage)
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The only two things I "cheaped out" on when I rebuilt my bike, were the mirrors, and the levers (bought eBay knock-offs). Now those are the two things I'm least happy with, and I'll be replacing before riding season.

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The only two things I "cheaped out" on when I rebuilt my bike, were the mirrors, and the levers (bought eBay knock-offs). Now those are the two things I'm least happy with, and I'll be replacing before riding season.
I've got shroty CRG's and they are awesome. They blow the cheap stuff and the OEM levers outta the water, IMO. I believe Clorox has some good levers up for sale, FYI.

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I've got some chinese mirrors on my 919 one of them vibrated out of the box to the point where it wasn't useable. The guy that sold them asked for a video showing the problem, as soon as i sent him the video he said ok new mirror is coming.

Mirrors do the job but are cheap, I got exactly what I paid for
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I bought ebay knockoff folding bar-end mirrors. The one on the right fold itself in as soon as I get over 50, not matter how much I try to tighten it. There's a groove worn between the keeper notches now, so it won't hold place.

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I've got some chinese mirrors on my 919 one of them vibrated out of the box to the point where it wasn't useable. The guy that sold them asked for a video showing the problem, as soon as i sent him the video he said ok new mirror is coming.

Mirrors do the job but are cheap, I got exactly what I paid for
Had the same problem with the cheap china knockoffs I had on my 9er. The glass actually rattled in the plastic frame. I applied some Chinese super glue to the edge of the glass and I could see my elbows clear as day.




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Speaking of... Only took this one 3 weeks to get here.

It's a piggy bank. A Chinese piggy bank.
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We really can't blame the Chinese, we can only blame ourselves for buying the crap....

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Ive used chinese levers for 10 years...no problems whatsoever...ridiculous to pay $180 for pazzos IMO...i shall now put on my flame suit

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I wouldn't trust essential parts though... I wonder how leatherwings is doing with his Chinese wave rotors.
After several thousand miles, including a long distance ride up the coast from LA to SF, my Chinese eBay rotors are holding up well!







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I have had those same rotors on my Zrx for 8 years...no problems
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Share some "Made in China" parts failures. These are rizoma knock offs from ebay. Tonight my Chinese bar end mirrors became loose so I tightened them.
Did you just say "not in spec"?

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I have had those same rotors on my Zrx for 8 years...no problems
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I applied some Chinese super glue to the edge of the glass and I could see my elbows clear as day.

lol, that looks like a fine product. Just as quality as the NEKI "swoosh" sports watch I used to own.



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After several thousand miles, including a long distance ride up the coast from LA to SF, my Chinese eBay rotors are holding up well!
That's good to hear! If I didn't buy Paulibiker's rotors I'd seriously consider one of them. The Shinki I was eyeing awhile back (Japanese) went up in price almost as expensive as the usual brands.

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China is really no different that any others. They make the iPhone/iPads and do an excellent job. The US can make a come back in manufacturing by using the new breed of cheap robots, but the US has hurt itself with all the legal issues.

I live in California, we've lost a LOT of businesses to other states/countries. It's so dam hard to follow all the rules in the US, more so in California, that businesses have little choice.

Notice how most of the big California companies are tech? Apple is here, yet they hold their sales (iTunes) in Reno, NV and many hold their IP assets outside the US.

It would be nice if you could tell what stuff from China is good and what is bad. With all these knock offs / look alikes it's hard to tell what's quality and what's not.

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One way to tell is when something worth $100 is being sold for $10 chances are its cheap.

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Unfortunately it's not the maker that's the issue at hand. When given the right equipment and quality parts, the Chinese makes can be just as good as it's Internationally made counterparts.

The real issue with buying from the Chinese at least several years ago, and this seems to be less and less the case now, is that the motto is not "support the guy that makes it well and cares about his craftsmanship" but more like "buy from that guy because his is the cheapest." Seriously, that's how business is done over there on a small scale level (not Apple or the likes). Now....not so much. There are still companies that do things with poor quality controls cranking things out on the super low price sure but since China has boomed, there is now a good portion of quality products being made but still at a great price. How? The government subsidizes these products cost so that quality is up and cost is still down, consider it an investment... which if you look at what's happening over there, is working at the time being.

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One way to tell is when something worth $100 is being sold for $10 chances are its cheap.

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Hmm... I know someone that might really enjoy that as a gift. Where does one get one?

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They have them on Amazon, but reviews there say they are a knock off off a better quality item. Not sure where the best one's are.

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I got it on ebay. $18 shipped from China. Just took almost a month due to the boat.
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Btw it feels cheap and sounds bad. I got what I expected lol
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A lot of these chinese parts are available in the states also. You just pay a lil more to get it faster. I have gotten many good items. Mirrors, levers, tools that I was actually impressed with for cheap. Some not so much. My heated grip pads came with a radio shack on/off switch and Chinese pads at a slightly higher price in 3 days from California. Supply and demand. Everyone wants good cheap parts shipped fast. Anyway way I will buy again. I just hate the wait so I usually fork up the few extra dollars. I suppose I am taking the risk of dropping my bike and breaking my very "nice looking" levers and being stranded though.

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They have them on Amazon, but reviews there say they are a knock off off a better quality item. Not sure where the best one's are.

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I see then with prime shipping, I'll get one there. Thanks

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I got it on ebay. $18 shipped from China. Just took almost a month due to the boat.
Right on, I Hope it lasts awhile. It won't be so much a piggy bank if the cat stops reaching for the money.

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If it's shipped by amazon and isn't apart of the market place.
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Trying this new china Koso gauge. Should be here in 30 days. Found one for 74.

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Trying this new china Koso gauge. Should be here in 30 days. Found one for 74.

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Wonder why that would make a difference?

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The seller just sent me a question: Is the 919 rpm signal possitive or negative on the 919?
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I have a set of Chinese Shorty levers, they are CNCd compared them to a set of Pazzos on a friends bike almost identical to them good quality. $36 shipped only took like 2 weeks to get

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I have a set of Chinese Shorty levers, they are CNCd compared them to a set of Pazzos on a friends bike almost identical to them good quality. $36 shipped only took like 2 weeks to get
Who was the seller? I need to order some black ones. Goog was right, these green ones I got are lookin gross.

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