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post #1 of 15 Old 06-21-2006, 07:03 PM Thread Starter
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Need electrical help..frustrated and annoyed

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I have learned some stuff over the years (most of all not to change a lot of stuff on your bike unless you are making it a track bike).

I managed to do quite a bit on my own or with minimal help. Rear shock, pegs, and basic maintenance but I am damn flustered on 2 simple things.

I tried to integrate my turn signals into my tail light. In the past I satrted leaning towards almost squid like things to the bike but saw the light. Hell, I track the custom painted beast (Paint job was dirt cheap through family BTW).

Anyway, I could never get it to work right so I have had no signals forever. Well, I bought some new rear signals. My front signals are integrated into the mirrors. Angela and I try and hook them up tonight and no worky. We analyze..hey..my electrical engineering buddies who helped left 1 wire nhooked on each. Hook up both wires on the left and now I have integrated signal. (Left only hooked up and right still as before.

Strip add fastner and plug in right...nada...nothing...no worky left or right or front now. WTF!!! Totally lost and appreciate any help. If anyone was remotely close it would be a case, pizza and a place to crash for the help.

What do I need to do besides try normal front signals again with the rear? I do like the integrated look on my bike.

Please, please help. I can't take it anymore!!


To add insult...I have wanted to try GP shift. Simple flip on a Suzuki according to evryone on earth. I try flipping the bolt (knuckle) in front of the peg connecting the rod. No luck. Still moves the same way. Shouldn't it move different?

I again appreciate any help (especially photos!!). What am I missing? I feel like a moron. Every time I think I am getting to know stuff something hits me to make me feel stupid. I learned to tweek suspension, swap tires and other stuff but I can't get signals to work or do a supposedly 5 minute mod.


Sorry for the book. Current TLR moron.

BTW, I came here cause you guys will not only add more ridicule but also help.

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post #2 of 15 Old 06-21-2006, 07:19 PM
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That is definitely something that needs to be an in person fix. I'm not sure even with pictures anyone will be able to help. Wiring is about patience and perseverance, tough to do over the net.

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That was my guess but looking for anything. May try again when not as hot and frustrated.

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Do I understand you tried it first and it worked, but after stripping the wire, adding a fastener and plugging it in nothing works. If that is the case my guess is you had power on it and grounded it out, thus blowing a fuse.
But if none of the above happened, then at least try un"fastening" it and see if you get back what you had.

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First, what bike are we talking about? Your TL? For the GP shifting you need to flip the shifter rod on the opposite side of your counter-shaft. If your shifter rod is on the same side as when you started you're still shifting the same. Here's a good write up I did with pictures.

http://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.php?t=33626

For the signals, they should be designed as a loop similar to this. See if you can find a wiring diagram like this one for the 600RR.


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post #6 of 15 Old 06-22-2006, 07:09 AM
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I have installed integrators on Hondas and Yamahas. Your TL should not be a problem. The only thing different would be the color codes for the wires. Follow my wiring diagram.

As for GP shifting, your shift arm needs to be rotated 180 degrees. For instance, if the shift rod is now connected to the shift arm at 6 o'clock, rotate the arm so the shift rod connects to it at 12 o'clock.


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post #7 of 15 Old 06-22-2006, 07:15 AM
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Mike, that worked for you? You are only using the ground from your Turn Signals? Also not running the brake light through the converter? Hmm. I have a picture of mine but it is back hom in USA. But hell, if it works, its works.

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Dave- If you look at my wiring diagram the ground wire (green) comes from the stock 3 pin connector and is common to the brake/tail light dual filament bulbs. The brake wire (Green/Yellow)does go to the integrator (red) wire. It would not function properly if this was not the case.

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post #9 of 15 Old 06-22-2006, 07:26 AM
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http://www.project919.com/members/ho...ft%20Setup.htm

ez gp shift conversion on a 919...w/ animation


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http://www.project919.com/members/ho...ft%20Setup.htm

ez gp shift conversion on a 919...w/ animation

Nice... Hmmm where did that mod. come from?

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Love the animation, RD. That sucker sure is tight on clearance with the cover.

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Ratdog,

That animation rocks. I think I got what I was missing. I was only rotating not flipping. I am a goon at times.

Mike (m51142),

That is how my wires originally looked when only the front would both flas quickly no matter which signal I hit. Rear would not work.

Jim,

Don't think I blew a fuse but could have. We were careful not to let anything touch but who knows. I had some wiring and fuse issues last year we had to clear up. It worked when left only was all hooked up and fastner and right was still through integrator. When we hooked left through fastner no worky.


Thanks to all for help. Anyone want to ride to Xenia, OH? I think HondaJim is the only one very close.

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Sorry, I haven't done a tail integrator, at least, not that kind of tail.

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post #14 of 15 Old 06-23-2006, 04:11 AM
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This thread makes me so happy to own a racebike

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Jim,

Waited this long...I can wait a little longer if needed and can't figure it out.

Larry,

Trust me..I wish I had one...at least track bike.

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