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post #2 of 18 Old 11-04-2014, 08:31 AM
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People with money burning a hole in their pocket and a wish to shorten their life expectancy have some great 2015s to choose from!

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hmmmm wonder what that powerplant is gonna be..... interesting exhaust setup.

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hmmmm wonder what that powerplant is gonna be..... interesting exhaust setup.
There was talk of a V5 a while back - ???

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post #6 of 18 Old 11-04-2014, 01:03 PM
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There was talk of a V5 a while back - ???
My understanding is that it's essentially a race-bike-with-lights version of the bike Hayden has right now. That would make it a V4 literbike with a criminal price tag.

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Don't get me wrong, I love the bike, but honestly, what is the point in releasing a track bike for $100,000?

Couldn't they just make an updated 1000rr model with new fairings/exhausts that are GP inspired, for what the bike normally goes for???

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F'k and I thought the RC45 was overpriced when it came out.
I would rather have the NSR500 v-twin that was $100,000.oo
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F'k and I thought the RC45 was overpriced when it came out.
I would rather have the NSR500 v-twin that was $100,000.oo
You do have a point there. Even adjusting for inflation optimistically, you're looking at a price gap of around $60k. However, this new beast is in a whole different world of performance. Don't get me wrong, though, I still wouldn't buy it even if I had the money. The R1M looks far more attractive in terms of the performance offered per dollar.

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Couldn't they just make an updated 1000rr model with new fairings/exhausts that are GP inspired, for what the bike normally goes for???
Isn't that sort of the idea behind the SP version?

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Don't get me wrong, I love the bike, but honestly, what is the point in releasing a track bike for $100,000?
Simple, manufacturers need to make money and they aren't getting it from us everyday folks so they are going after the elite with special toyz only the rich can afford.

Used to be the motorcycle manufacturers sponsored professional road racing in this country and in return we bought their bikes right off the showroom floors. The recession came and their sales slumped which is what killed American Road Racing. No bucks, no Buck Rogers. The factories knew this long ago and pulled out their funding because the return on their investment was no longer there when nobody was buying new bikes. It's so bad they stopped updating their models every two years and now some of them are going on 5 and 6 years with no real updates. A stark change from the way it used to be, but those with their deep pockets can purchase $65,000 Superleggera's and Desmosedici's etc. The manufacturers are starting to cater to those who have the real money and will turn a profit off of them instead of catering to the masses with affordable bikes and decent technology. It may look like a good thing on the surface to see these high dollar, high performance bikes come onto the scene, but in the end it is not going to be good for us regular guys. Even 600cc bikes are encroaching on the $12,000-$14,000 USD range when wages have pretty much remained the same since the time you could buy them for about half that price.

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Simple, manufacturers need to make money and they aren't getting it from us everyday folks so they are going after the elite with special toyz only the rich can afford.

Used to be the motorcycle manufacturers sponsored professional road racing in this country and in return we bought their bikes right off the showroom floors. The recession came and their sales slumped which is what killed American Road Racing. No bucks, no Buck Rogers. The factories knew this long ago and pulled out their funding because the return on their investment was no longer there when nobody was buying new bikes. It's so bad they stopped updating their models every two years and now some of them are going on 5 and 6 years with no real updates. A stark change from the way it used to be, but those with their deep pockets can purchase $65,000 Superleggera's and Desmosedici's etc. The manufacturers are starting to cater to those who have the real money and will turn a profit off of them instead of catering to the masses with affordable bikes and decent technology. It may look like a good thing on the surface to see these high dollar, high performance bikes come onto the scene, but in the end it is not going to be good for us regular guys. Even 600cc bikes are encroaching on the $12,000-$14,000 USD range when wages have pretty much remained the same since the time you could buy them for about half that price.
The same logic could probably be used to explain the explosion of inexpensive, low-displacement machines. Really, it's basically the middle class dying off that's causing current sales and marketing strategies and statistics. Don't get me wrong, I like that we're seeing a lot of competition in the 300-500cc range, but I'd prefer some competitive pricing in the 600 sportbike range, too.

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Simple, manufacturers need to make money and they aren't getting it from us everyday folks so they are going after the elite with special toyz only the rich can afford.

Used to be the motorcycle manufacturers sponsored professional road racing in this country and in return we bought their bikes right off the showroom floors. The recession came and their sales slumped which is what killed American Road Racing. No bucks, no Buck Rogers. The factories knew this long ago and pulled out their funding because the return on their investment was no longer there when nobody was buying new bikes. It's so bad they stopped updating their models every two years and now some of them are going on 5 and 6 years with no real updates. A stark change from the way it used to be, but those with their deep pockets can purchase $65,000 Superleggera's and Desmosedici's etc. The manufacturers are starting to cater to those who have the real money and will turn a profit off of them instead of catering to the masses with affordable bikes and decent technology. It may look like a good thing on the surface to see these high dollar, high performance bikes come onto the scene, but in the end it is not going to be good for us regular guys. Even 600cc bikes are encroaching on the $12,000-$14,000 USD range when wages have pretty much remained the same since the time you could buy them for about half that price.
I want to add, they may of also lost focus.

Honda, for example, with it's "focus groups", has become a joke of what it used to be IMO.

And the magazines - I remember when they were written for the reader. All the sudden, they started to write for the manufacturer, and now, well, all we get is sugar coated b-s.

And yes, prices have gone up because the dollar is nearly worthless. Yes, our American dollar is nearly worthless, thanks in no small part to the recent "leader" of this country putting us further and further into debt.

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Change is blowing in the wind, hopefully in the right direction this time

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In 'merica we call that class warefare.

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In 'merica we call that class warefare.

Oops.
In the real world, it's called math(s). Plural if you're from the Old World.

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I just don't see how anyone could say anything bad about bikes like this being released to the public.

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I just don't see how anyone could say anything bad about bikes like this being released to the public.
Quite simply, they aren't releasing them for you or anyone else on this forum filled with guys that are worried about spending more than $37 dollars to improve their suspension etc.

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Aww, go on, LDH, you can admit it to us - you like some people sometimes.

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