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Honda 919 Powercommander maps

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just built me a new exhaust put the m2 vale single side twobros can on the bike. was looking to see if any one has a map for a single side exhaust of any sort for the honda 919. i am gonna make a new intake inlet before i have a map built

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just built me a new exhaust put the m2 vale single side twobros can on the bike. was looking to see if any one has a map for a single side exhaust of any sort for the honda 919. i am gonna make a new intake inlet before i have a map built
A "new intake inlet" ?
You mean something to most likely nicely screw up the inlet ?

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A "new intake inlet" ?
You mean something to most likely nicely screw up the inlet ?


mcromo is right here though. it'll take a lot of tinkering with a honda intake design to make it work as well as oem (if better is possible at all). one thing honda engineers know is their intake designs!!! i've dealt with tinkering enough honda intakes to conclude they know their shit in that area and sometimes oem is just best left alone performance wise. however, cosmetically it's an entirely different story! they sure like fugly intakes

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mcromo is right here though. it'll take a lot of tinkering with a honda intake design to make it work as well as oem (if better is possible at all). one thing honda engineers know is their intake designs!!! i've dealt with tinkering enough honda intakes to conclude they know their shit in that area and sometimes oem is just best left alone performance wise. however, cosmetically it's an entirely different story! they sure like fugly intakes
I paid to have a series of dyno runs done to compare stock to BMC filter plus side cover on /off comparative runs.

The BMC nets a hair, the only justification for having one is it being a life long filter, and only if you plan to be a life long owner.

The side cover on /off barely showed anything, and once I looked at it closely, I realized that simple run to run variances of coolant and oil temps would explain it all. I defy anyone to come up with a revised inlet that still has a stock or stock dimensioned filter in place, that yields the same, let alone any more torque or power, anywhere on the curve.
Case closed.

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pretty much well known there designed to run on still air....any sort of ram air intake track could result in more on the very top end and could only be measured at the drag strip and will effect low mid power on the down side

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pretty much well known there designed to run on still air....any sort of ram air intake track could result in more on the very top end and could only be measured at the drag strip and will effect low mid power on the down side
IF a properly designed, located and practical arrangement can be fabbed up, or course it would help.

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Reason to try new intake inlet came to me looking at measurments is inlet on filter is 70mm inlet opening going to filter is only 60mm. Beside everyone nit picking my thoughts on intake, back to other part of post. Has anyone got a map for single side exhaust.

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Yes, g00gl3it does. There are at least two maps in the Dropbox folder. PM g00gl3it to gain access.

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Yes, g00gl3it does. There are at least two maps in the Dropbox folder. PM g00gl3it to gain access.
M112-004 map is a standard PC issued map for a Two Bros 4:1
The Simpson map is a variation of that.
I think both are sea level derived maps.
g00gl3it has a good map derived at 5,000 ft or so.
All the above mentioned maps are in the Drop Box

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IF a properly designed, located and practical arrangement can be fabbed up, or course it would help.
like the vmax intake track gets longer the higher the rpm or faster you go.... then again its a 20.000 dollar machine set up at the factory...not a pop on part

remember watching dyno runs for several years....tuner would make dyno runs with filter off 8 to 10 runs make adjustments along the way...add the filter and only lose 1/2 to 1 hp.......besides we have the flapper valve

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What's the deal with flapper valve does anyone run it or does that get pulled Fairly early

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What's the deal with flapper valve does anyone run it or does that get pulled Fairly early
It's there for intake noise reduction.

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What's the deal with flapper valve does anyone run it or does that get pulled Fairly early
I explain it a bit here: Honda 919 CB900F Pair Valve Removal and Flapper mod.avi - YouTube





While you're at it, do the pair removal .


Send me a PM with your email address and I can send you some maps to try, or if you want access to the Dropbox folder that we share (if you know what it is), I can do that as well.

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Slight tangent - I installed the used serial port PCIII last night, and I ported the Pvster map to the .map format (I am at about 4000 feet ASL). REALLY enjoyed my ride into work this morning - the engine was SO smooth, and user-friendly - I was impressed with the difference.

If you want, I'll add a few notes to the map, and save in the Dropbox.

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Slight tangent - I installed the used serial port PCIII last night, and I ported the Pvster map to the .map format (I am at about 4000 feet ASL). REALLY enjoyed my ride into work this morning - the engine was SO smooth, and user-friendly - I was impressed with the difference.

If you want, I'll add a few notes to the map, and save in the Dropbox.
Please do!

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Slight tangent - I installed the used serial port PCIII last night, and I ported the Pvster map to the .map format (I am at about 4000 feet ASL). REALLY enjoyed my ride into work this morning - the engine was SO smooth, and user-friendly - I was impressed with the difference.

If you want, I'll add a few notes to the map, and save in the Dropbox.
hahah, if you liked that map..... you should try my new one i just got last weekend. dude was having issues with the 919 dumping fuel after the fan kicked on and while it's an overall decently nice tune, issues reared their ugly head in stop/go traffic when cold out and the fan kicked on. this new map had at least 18% of fuel taken out across the bottom half of the rpm range and the result removed most (if not all, still need to do more testing) of those issues and made significant improvements on my cold start issue. i'll continue playing with it and have mcromo go over it with me before i post it up.

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hahah, if you liked that map..... you should try my new one i just got last weekend. dude was having issues with the 919 dumping fuel after the fan kicked on and while it's an overall decently nice tune, issues reared their ugly head in stop/go traffic when cold out and the fan kicked on. this new map had at least 18% of fuel taken out across the bottom half of the rpm range and the result removed most (if not all, still need to do more testing) of those issues and made significant improvements on my cold start issue. i'll continue playing with it and have mcromo go over it with me before i post it up.
Pvster, throw your map in Dropbox, if you have access...

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more things change the more they stay the same...years back people would change there jets all the time looking for that perfect combo...now they play with there maps,,everyone thinking theres is the best.....in the end it dont matter if running worse or better,,it only matters what you think or think you think

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hahah, if you liked that map..... you should try my new one i just got last weekend. dude was having issues with the 919 dumping fuel after the fan kicked on and while it's an overall decently nice tune, issues reared their ugly head in stop/go traffic when cold out and the fan kicked on. this new map had at least 18% of fuel taken out across the bottom half of the rpm range and the result removed most (if not all, still need to do more testing) of those issues and made significant improvements on my cold start issue. i'll continue playing with it and have mcromo go over it with me before i post it up.
Sounds good, I'll post up the converted old map, and try out the new one when you've got it uploaded.

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PowerCommander Maps AGAIN!!!!!

You can search this forum forever talking about PCIII maps... I hear talk about the drop box but I can't seem to find the link. Maybe I am retarded. Can somebody point me to this?

I am in Colorado Springs (approx 6000 ft give or take where you are in town) and I am trying to avoid going to get a dyno tune. This thread talks about a map from Pvster that MF1VE worked with and I would like to try it.

I have the older serial port PCIII and a Two Brothers single exhaust. The bike has a K&N filter that came on it but I can put any filter necessary. Flapper mod and PAIR mod.

All help is appreciated.

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You can search this forum forever talking about PCIII maps... I hear talk about the drop box but I can't seem to find the link. Maybe I am retarded. Can somebody point me to this?

I am in Colorado Springs (approx 6000 ft give or take where you are in town) and I am trying to avoid going to get a dyno tune. This thread talks about a map from Pvster that MF1VE worked with and I would like to try it.

I have the older serial port PCIII and a Two Brothers single exhaust. The bike has a K&N filter that came on it but I can put any filter necessary. Flapper mod and PAIR mod.

All help is appreciated.

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There is limited access to the drop box, and there needs to be.
I'm not the gatekeeper, but I can say that a one month member is not going to get access to it.
My map file is at least as big as the drop box file. (guess why)
Most maps you'll find will be in the current, post serial port, usb format called .djm.
Serial port PCs need the earlier .map format.
The PC software provides for .map to .djm conversion ,but not the other way.
One needs to manually create a .map map from the data of the .djm map.
You need the early software to do so.
It's all very easy to do.
I did one for Rickard, and it worked.
If your computer does not have a serial port, you will need a usb x serial port converter, and per PowerCommander, only use Belkin adaptors and software, Microsoft driver included.
If you get in a real jam, or feel in way over head, I can do a .map conversion for you, of what ever map you want to try.

PM me as need be.

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The link to download all the drop box files is in the helpful hint sticky. On my phone now, otherwise I'd post a link.

That's only to download, mind you. Additional access is needed to add or delete content, which is regulated through myself, the coolest 919 owner there is. :-p

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That's only to download, mind you. Additional access is needed to add or delete content, which is regulated through myself, the gheyest 919 owner there is. :-p
Fixed for you

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I just got my PWC3 in the mail today how do i get access to the dropbox for some maps ?

I'm rocking the danmoto's if anybody have a map suggestion.

EDIT: not going to lie...the c3 program is quite intimidating to use.

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I have no idea how to use this thing xD

If somebody could give me a rundown of the attached image.
Note that the table is what I recovered from the PWC3 so I haven't changed anything yet.

I've noticed that at low rpms, if the bike is in gear it's hard to maintain smooth throttle. When I let go of the throttle completely and i'm in gear, the bike kinda chugs and twitches along. I guess the idling is a bit rough and could be smoothed out?

Let me know if I could provide additional info much appreciated.
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bump or something xD ?

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Hey @ewmin3m,


I personally wouldn't adjust individual trim levels. I would load a map from the Dropbox folder and roll with it.

Unless you have more advanced mechanical skills or access to someone with a dyno, it's best to leave those fields alone. There are a few on here who DO know what they are doing and have used those fields to some success, but only to smooth out the throttle in certain RPM areas, etc.

Most of which has already been done with successful dyno tunes, which values are then stored in said maps in Dropbox.

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Thanks I'll shall do that.

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I personally wouldn't adjust individual trim levels. I would load a map from the Dropbox folder and roll with it.

Unless you have more advanced mechanical skills or access to someone with a dyno, it's best to leave those fields alone. There are a few on here who DO know what they are doing and have used those fields to some success, but only to smooth out the throttle in certain RPM areas, etc.

Most of which has already been done with successful dyno tunes, which values are then stored in said maps in Dropbox.

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Thanks I'll shall do that.

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Hey @ewmin3m,


I personally wouldn't adjust individual trim levels. I would load a map from the Dropbox folder and roll with it.

Unless you have more advanced mechanical skills or access to someone with a dyno, it's best to leave those fields alone. There are a few on here who DO know what they are doing and have used those fields to some success, but only to smooth out the throttle in certain RPM areas, etc.

Most of which has already been done with successful dyno tunes, which values are then stored in said maps in Dropbox.
Ewmin3m. Which map did you settle on for your Danmoto's. Thanks mate.

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ugh.... I have no idea xD it's been so long and I didn't keep any notes for what I did unfortunately... sorry about that. I used what was in the dropbox though, so I'm sure you'd be able to figure it out...

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