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post #1 of 45 Old 01-05-2016, 09:24 AM Thread Starter
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So I just scored a clean Honda 919 and I am back in the bike game. My all time favorite bike was a 1991 CBR1000F - big, powerful, and carried two up. It seems today most of the offerings are more hard core.


So my question what current model most represents the sport touring models of years ago? Certainly with a sporting edge, no saddle bags and more a relaxed sport stance.


The 919 is going to fun but after a few rides it just doesn't have the big bike feel the CBR1000F had. And after all I still have a little room in the garage.

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So my question what current model most represents the sport touring models of years ago? Certainly with a sporting edge, no saddle bags and more a relaxed sport stance.

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I am going to a motorcycle show end of month to look at all the offerings the VFR did not get great reviews. The Blackbird was the same idea as my old CBR1000f, I will check out the ninja at the show.

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I am going to a motorcycle show end of month to look at all the offerings the VFR did not get great reviews. The Blackbird was the same idea as my old CBR1000f, I will check out the ninja at the show.
I would check out the Versys 1000 and the FJ-09 too

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I would check out the Versys 1000 and the FJ-09 too
I talked to someone who was riding the FJ-09 and he absolutely loved it. Really nice looking bike, and when I sat on it, the ergos seemed spot on.

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I am going to a motorcycle show end of month to look at all the offerings the VFR did not get great reviews.
The VFR1200 is an AWESOME machine. It's big and has a few quarks, but I find it's comfortable enough to tour on and sporty enough to feel like a bad ass (although we all no that nobody really cares).






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The VFR1200 is an AWESOME machine. It's big and has a few quarks, but I find it's comfortable enough to tour on and sporty enough to feel like a bad ass (although we all no that nobody really cares).
Thanks for the replies- I enjoy the pictures- I am on the hunt for a stock blackbird lol
Really the show should be great in the mean time the 919 I picked gets me back in the game. Trying to determine the best tire choice, so many on the market

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I might be the odd duck out and suggest the new trophy from triumph...and i know ill get flack but im heavily considering a ctx1300...that doesnt fit any of your criteria probably, but thought id chirp in.

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I've also had an FJR1300. That thing is a super slab machine. I've ridden from Indianapolis to Minneapolis in a day and still felt great. The wife and I used to ride 2-up on it as well and neither of use felt cramped. I got the wife to ride on the back of my VFR1200 ONCE... and never again (slippery seat and no saddle bags at the time to wrap her legs around). If you are going to ride 2 up, FJR is a nice choice. My wife has her own bike... so if we HAVE to ride 2-up somewhere (ergo baseball game where MC parking is dirt cheap), we just take her Magna which is a hoot to ride on it's own.



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I might be the odd duck out and suggest the new trophy from triumph...and i know ill get flack but im heavily considering a ctx1300...that doesnt fit any of your criteria probably, but thought id chirp in.
They happen to have a few of the CTXs at our local dealer... If you don't have a guy yet, talk to Josh at the parts counter, we are biddies and he knows his stuff.

As for the relevant part of the post, if you aren't trying to look like a sport bike but want stupid power and comfort, perhaps you could consider an F6B. They rip. Handle incredibly well, and you can pick them up from a dealer brand new for a pretty casual price. It may not have the aesthetics of a sport-tourer, but can blow your mind with its capabilities and comfort.

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They happen to have a few of the CTXs at our local dealer... If you don't have a guy yet, talk to Josh at the parts counter, we are biddies and he knows his stuff.

As for the relevant part of the post, if you aren't trying to look like a sport bike but want stupid power and comfort, perhaps you could consider an F6B. They rip. Handle incredibly well, and you can pick them up from a dealer brand new for a pretty casual price. It may not have the aesthetics of a sport-tourer, but can blow your mind with its capabilities and comfort.
My god they are ugly though.

I was talking to dealer here and they are marking them down around 7k to try and move.

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My god they are ugly though. I was talking to dealer here and they are marking them down around 7k to try and move.
How about a VFR800 less than 100 hp but close to the package I want. Anyone think the would do. CBR1000F / Blackbird type of sport tour bike again? I am going to sit on some full boat sport bikes and see if I can fit, getting old is hard on knees and hips.

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any one see the "cycle-ergo.com" web site? It is very cool to compare the riding position of most bikes on the market. I load up my first bike as my loved CBR1000F and adjust the settings for my height. then I start comparing current offerings. Motorcycle Ergonomics


I heading to a Honda dealer to check out tires and a battery for the 919 .... have a great weekend everyone

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My god they are ugly though.

I was talking to dealer here and they are marking them down around 7k to try and move.
Again, i knew id take flack. I had high hopes they massage the ctx just a bit in styling for a 3rd model year, and taller gearing. I would LOVE a f6b...just that extra 8k makes my wallet hurt. I barely ride the 919 anymore as it is, and getting 2 bikes now is like asking for a hole in my head.

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I'd rock an F6B, It's too bad Honda never updated the ST1300


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So I've done a lot of research on this and I've come up with the Ninja 1000, Versyes 1000, and the FJ-09.

My personal pick is the Ninja 1000. Great reviews and adding the saddles bags keeps it the $13k before taxes range.

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So I've done a lot of research on this and I've come up with the Ninja 1000, Versyes 1000, and the FJ-09. My personal pick is the Ninja 1000. Great reviews and adding the saddles bags keeps it the $13k before taxes range.
tomorrow I will check my fav cbr1000f, with the ninja on "cycle ergo" I think the car had a 27 degree lee. Angle not sure at the moment.

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If you're looking at FJ-09, take a look at Tiger 800 XRx also (preferably at the same dealer), or wait for Tiger 800 XRT

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If you're looking at FJ-09, take a look at Tiger 800 XRx also (preferably at the same dealer), or wait for Tiger 800 XRT
Looked at the ninja and is reallocate not much different than the 919. Pretty much the same riding position. The show is the last weekend of the month- have not been to the show in. Few years. Usually very bike offered by top manufacturers are available to look at and sit on.

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If you want a big bike feel there isn't much bigger than a gold wing.... I think they even have a mini fridge and a microwave to go along with reverse gears.

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When I am old, I plan on getting a goldwing. They are no slouch despite their size and weight. I'll just get one of those drop down wheel systems to help me keep it upright when stopped or reversing.

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If you want a big bike feel there isn't much bigger than a gold wing.... I think they even have a mini fridge and a microwave to go along with reverse gears.
never see myself on a gold wing, if you never rode a cbr1000f from the early 1990's - nothing else so far has the mix of size, power and sport. I am sure something is out on the market, I have 919 so no rush on the search.

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Ninja 1000, FJ09, Versys do not have the big bike feel. Versys 1000 might be ok with 2 up, but probably not. My Ninja feels smaller than even an FZ1. Feels about the same size as the 919.

FJR, Concours, ST1300 would be better two up, and will certainly feel bigger. But even then, I hear they aren't the most comfortable for the passenger. Obviously it's all subjective.

I always hear that the Vstrom 650 is actually comfortable for the passenger.

I'd take your wife with you to go look at bikes. I did that, she actually like the ZX14, I believe.

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Ninja 1000, FJ09, Versys do not have the big bike feel. Versys 1000 might be ok with 2 up, but probably not. My Ninja feels smaller than even an FZ1. Feels about the same size as the 919. FJR, Concours, ST1300 would be better two up, and will certainly feel bigger. But even then, I hear they aren't the most comfortable for the passenger. Obviously it's all subjective. I always hear that the Vstrom 650 is actually comfortable for the passenger. I'd take your wife with you to go look at bikes. I did that, she actually like the ZX14, I believe.
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Sorry to hear that.

The Ninja 1000 and FZ1 is definitely on the sportier side of the midweight sport tourer. FZ1 especially, it's a very high revving bike. I'd rather have a fattier midrange.

A used low mileage VFR1200 can be had for $6k in my area. Never ridden one, though. Riser bar on something like an R1 would be fun.

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Sorry to hear that. The Ninja 1000 and FZ1 is definitely on the sportier side of the midweight sport tourer. FZ1 especially, it's a very high revving bike. I'd rather have a fattier midrange. A used low mileage VFR1200 can be had for $6k in my area. Never ridden one, though. Riser bar on something like an R1 would be fun.
Yes the VFR both of them are on the list, went to a dealer last Saturday and was surprised that I liked sitting on a zx10, not on the touring side of life for sure, but man Sunday morning rides would arresting lol

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If you are looking at new, the 8th gen VFR800s (current generation) are nice. I haven't ridden one, but sitting on them, they are quite comfortable. My only gripe is that the motor is a carryover from the 6th generation and has been in production for years. Nothing wrong with that, except that it seems like one of those bikes where one wants just a smidge more power. If it made a little more power I would consider one... VFR1200 on the other hand makes 147 hp at the rear wheel (per dyno run at local event) and market value is crap (ergo great deals can be had).

Not trying to sell you on the Honda, but I've ridden the FZ-09 (not the FJ-09 I know) and it did NOT feel like a large bike. It felt smaller than my 9er with lots of power on tap.

If you are looking for something that feels big, have you looked at the Super Tenere or any of the BMW bikes? They each have their own sort of cult following...



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