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buy a new bike tomorrow..

At the Honda shop I ranted at their Salesman about the show and them not having a 9r class replacement naked sporty! There's only one new bike option, WeeStrom-650. The Salesman claimed Honda rolls their models every seven years, so another five years before CB1KR, if I can wait that long.

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Sorry I didn't make the point clear.

If you were given a new bike, and it was the ONLY bike you could have for 5yr (until honda releases a sport-naked ) which bike would you get?

My pick is the vstrom-650.

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Just one ? Hard choice - the Vstrom is a good one for sure - Im not sure, id probally just stick wiht the Tuono - it does everything I need it do and is a cool bike to boot -

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Ah... now I get it. No plans on getting rid of my 919 but if I had to pick a new bike it would be a Suzuki GSXR 750 or a Suzuki DR-Z400SM.

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Just one ? Hard choice - the Vstrom is a good one for sure - Im not sure, id probally just stick wiht the Tuono - it does everything I need it do and is a cool bike to boot -
Those Tuono are great rides as long you don't need a part.

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Ah... now I get it. No plans on getting rid of my 919 but if I had to pick a new bike it would be a Suzuki GSXR 750 or a Suzuki DR-Z400SM.
Those are a couple great suzuki solo-rider contenders for this scenario! Currently only Suzuki offers reliable, sporty, naked, reasonable priced bikes! Wish they were as reliable as honda, but still much more better than the high priced euro bikes.

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Those Tuono are great rides as long you don't need a part.



Those are a couple great suzuki solo-rider contenders for this scenario! Currently only Suzuki offers reliable, sporty, naked, reasonable priced bikes! Wish they were as reliable as honda, but still much more better than the high priced euro bikes.
Luckly , I havent needed anything I couldnt find ! - Better knock on wood , huh ?! ?

Actually, Suzuki has come along way ! Id put thier reliabitly right up there with the best -

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Although I have read a lot of frame snapping issues over the years (mainly on Suzukis), but then again most of the new squids pick a Suzuki. Didn't Sporty have that cracked frame on her track day bike? Out of the many bikes I want, I really want an RC-51 and make it naked.

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Ah... now I get it. No plans on getting rid of my 919 but if I had to pick a new bike it would be a Suzuki GSXR 750 or a Suzuki DR-Z400SM.
the drz400 needs more power... it is anemic..



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Although I have read a lot of frame snapping issues over the years (mainly on Suzukis), but then again most of the new squids pick a Suzuki. Didn't Sporty have that cracked frame on her track day bike? Out of the many bikes I want, I really want an RC-51 and make it naked.
That's so impressive how Sporty can make a bike suffer! it could not have been a defect.

That's an impressive ride, but doesn't qualify for my survey... not in production. Which new bike would you own if you could have no other until Honda-motorcycle hires a new US marketing VP and offers a sporty-naked-ergo-comfy ride?

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its funny, I crashed my GSX-R at the track and only suffered cosmetic damage - my wife crashed her GSX-R on the track and only suffered cosmetic damage - seems to be a trend !

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the drz400 needs more power... it is anemic..
Barton, Thanks for confirming my concern. It's also to some degree WeeStrom's weakness, but Ridge (prior owner...ahem why did you sell it?) gave me assurances it's fine for couples on strict diets. When gas returns to $5/gl its 50MPG would be sweet! Lower insurance rates and great 2up ergos... Granted I would seriously miss the 9'rs impulse power when changing lanes...

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the drz400 needs more power... it is anemic..
All depends on it's intended use and rider weight(no jab intended). Up this way we have nothing but twisties to ride. The DRZ has more than enough beans, it's all about the rider and corner speed.

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All depends on it's intended use and rider weight(no jab intended). Up this way we have nothing but twisties to ride. The DRZ has more than enough beans, it's all about the rider and corner speed.
i wish we had twisties... and i am back in the gym.. going back down to 215.. any lighter and i look sick...



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i wish we had twisties... and i am back in the gym.. going back down to 215.. any lighter and i look sick...
Congrats on your personal progress, I thought the same thing at 215, but now 30lb lighter, folks tell me I look great and the bike has never been faster!

Weight is the bane of motorcycling since it limits turns, stopping and acceleration. After accepting that premise it's a rally point to take the best care of yourself, but severely limits bike choices. My fantasy is 100hp-400lb-sporty-naked-2up-ergo-reliable-inexpensive ride...thus why I ride the 9er!

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I would get a Z1000, it was on the back burner when I was looking for my 9er. I think this bike would scratch my naked itch.

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ughh.... weighed tonight .... 237.5... but!! still have a 36 inch waist... i may just not worry about the weight and do what the mirror says...


and the mirror says i am one sexy beast...



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My fantasy is 100hp-400lb-sporty-naked-2up-ergo-reliable-inexpensive ride...thus why I ride the 9er!
If I am definitely getting back on the 9er in 5 years, I think I might try a used CBR while I'm waiting (can't buy a new one and give Honda the impression that I'm supporting their move out of the naked class). I'm having a blast since I bought the 9 and would love to expand my range of experience.

Great thread, Dream.

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I'd probably get a Z1000, I love the look of the bike but could not pass on the price of the 919. Hopefully there will be a stronger naked from Honda in a few years. Traded for the 919 after only having the previous bike for a year so hopefully Honda will wait a while to put out a replacement. The 919 is great just needs a lil bit more top end grunt down low she's great.

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I would give an American a try Buell 1125cr. test road it , the V-twin was nice the onlt - for me was the bike felt so small. I guess I would get used to it.

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I would get a Z1000, it was on the back burner when I was looking for my 9er. I think this bike would scratch my naked itch.
Yup I nearly bought it, but its 2up-ergos were not as good as 9rs. Totally confused why Kawi EOL'd it, so it's NOT a new bike contender. Now Kawi offers a couple anemic rides below my power radar. It cracks me up they offer 60hp rides then 160HP (ZX14) with a huge gap! Recently on the freeway merging into 80MPH traffic, the experience confirmed I would not have dared tried it without 100HP!

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ughh.... weighed tonight .... 237.5... but!! still have a 36 inch waist... i may just not worry about the weight and do what the mirror says...


and the mirror says i am one sexy beast...
I've been heavier and now after much diligence lighter. Keep patience on your health program and stay sexy at any weight! This is for another thread...but the 9er is now faster than the ZX-11 and is a way more fun to ride!

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If I am definitely getting back on the 9er in 5 years, I think I might try a used CBR while I'm waiting (can't buy a new one and give Honda the impression that I'm supporting their move out of the naked class). I'm having a blast since I bought the 9 and would love to expand my range of experience.

Great thread, Dream.
Thanks for the feedback. You are also a very loyal 9er customer. Great point don't screw up the marketing data by not waiting for an improved Honda ride! With a lust for power, and my other picky requirements: the painful reality is setting in that no new bike will fill the 9ers large shoes.

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I would give an American a try Buell 1125cr. test road it , the V-twin was nice the onlt - for me was the bike felt so small. I guess I would get used to it.
I considered it. Unfortunately its short wheelbase vetoed 2up-ergos. Not excited about its low RPM limit, but it certainly made the short list.

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I considered it. Unfortunately its short wheelbase vetoed 2up-ergos. Not excited about its low RPM limit, but it certainly made the short list.
I wouldn't even think about it for 2-uping.You should get your passenger their own ride then you don't have to worry about it.

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Hmmm. So I thought about the S3 while riding today. That ride would certainly exceed most desires, but falls short of my wishlist's 2up-friendly, reliability and maintenance pie-in-the-sky ambitions....sigh.

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I wouldn't even think about it for 2-uping.You should get your passenger their own ride then you don't have to worry about it.
That's much easier said than done. Plus after joining the Institution all PO's go through the front office.

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i broke you know who from wanting to ride so much.. when i had the cbr1000rr i took her for a 160 mile round trip...... now she just likes short little runs..

that and when we are both on the bike thats a combined weight of 450+ pounds... she is 6' even and bout 210... and she aint fat..lol.. my baby gots muscles..



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i broke you know who from wanting to ride so much.. when i had the cbr1000rr i took her for a 160 mile round trip...... now she just likes short little runs..
Yup I appreciate that routine, especially on the stock seat.

My SO talks smack about riding solo but won't do the training. She loves 2up, and is happy for me to go solo! She even got me back into riding and calls the bike hers!

Today while merging the slab with crazed cagers completely reinforced my bike must always have >100HP. The only bike on my list is Ken's Bandit!

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I straddled a GSXR750, and now fully appreciate why it is MisterMike's top pick, since it is very light and plenty of umph! It sure doesn't offer 9er cozy ergos, and forget 2up; but if retired MM can handle it so can I!

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2 up for short jaunts...

the 750 also puts about 139ish to the ground... it is a great middleweight ....

cbr 1000rr is 7 pounds lighter with about 25 more horsies... wheeeeeeeee



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2 up for short jaunts...

the 750 also puts about 139ish to the ground... it is a great middleweight ....

cbr 1000rr is 7 pounds lighter with about 25 more horsies... wheeeeeeeee
with a very short 2up passenger!
Thanks Barton for the very interesting comparison! Thus CBR1K wins my new solo bike category, and Bandit for 2up.

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I straddled a GSXR750, and now fully appreciate why it is MisterMike's top pick, since it is very light and plenty of umph! It sure doesn't offer 9er cozy ergos, and forget 2up; but if retired MM can handle it so can I!
Yeah, there HAS to be a real good reason you 250,000 of those things on the highways of SFla.

Not me. I have the WORST "OMG I just dropped my buddy's bike! What a knob!" story ever and it was a Gixxer. I got rear-ended on my 9er and got right back on, but this story is so emasculating I can never ride a Gixxer again!

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Been giving this thread a lot of thought lately and even though an adventure bike is uber tempting I will agree with Lemonhead and say "FJR".




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If we are only considering brand new, the only thing I see that intersests me is either a one of the touring bikes from HD, or the bandit 1250

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That's the rules, stuck with it.
I agree with LH and Dadogs, the FJR is definitely a podium finisher!

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If we are only considering brand new, the only thing I see that intersests me is either a one of the touring bikes from HD, or the bandit 1250
Only brand new bikes can play the fantasy new bike game! I took your cue and stopped at HD. Their new sporty 1200 pleasantly surprised me, too bad it's 90HP. But does enjoy a twin torque boost. I checked out Buell's "Claw" 1250. Was thoroughly stoked they boosted the redline to 11k! When they put that motor in a longer Ulysses frame I'm putting down a deposit!

Then stopped at Honda. My solo top runner lightest liter-bike CBR1KRR felt as nimble as my first CBR600! The salesman claimed the frame geometry makes it very easy to ride, and the slipper clutch is very forgivable for downshifts.

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