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Bargain Basement: 1971 CB450

I was browsing through the classified ads today and someone has a 1971 CB450 listed for $100. The ad isn't very descriptive and doesn't give condition, but it says it does not shift. Maybe it is running? How else would they know it doesn't shift?

Is it work $100 even if just to resale?

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Go look at it, I've seen 'em go pretty cheap, but they were in a very sorry state.

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How else would they know it doesn't shift?
It stopped shifting one day 30 years ago and they left it in a shed? hehe good luck

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I may go have a look at it and snap a few pictures with my camera phone. Basically, I was hoping to find it in decent shape and possibly turn a quick profit or have a cheap classic.

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My first road bike was a '74 CB450, looked like this one...
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That's about what I expect this one to look like only in worse shape. I called the number in the ad yesterday but did not get a call back.

I know bikes must be like cars. There are certain ones that give you a return on your investment, and others that are just not desirable. If this is not a total pile of rust, is it worth $100 or is it one of those bikes that fully restored is not worth much.

No matter what it was, if I restored it, there would be some sentimental value to it, but with money getting tighter, I can't afford to drop a couple thousand into a bike that may or may not get that in return.

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I don't know that the CB twins have a lot of value, there's always a lot of 350's and 450's advertised cheap. The CB-Four's hold a lot more interest and nicely restored one's bring good money, any 70's era bikes are cool to me though.

I quickly grew bored with CB450 way back when I was 17 years old, it was a nice machine, full size bike and well made, just not a whole lot of power. I'd honestly probably appreciate it more now than I did then when I couldn't wait to get a four cylinder. I paid $800 for it in 1977 when it was only three years old and in excellent condition, sold it for the same and bought a '78 Suzuki GS750E.

I do remember trying to do a burnout on it one day, stood up and revved the motor, dumped the clutch with visions of impressive tire smoke in my head, unfortunately instead of the tire spinning it hooked up and brought the front end up and launched down the road with me running behind it trying to hold on. When I let off the gas it came down hard, slamming me and my boys into the tank with a vengeance. Managed to get it to the shoulder safely and had to just lay down in the grass for a couple of minutes while I caught my breath. Damn CB450, now I remember why I sold it!

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Loved my CB450. Had a 6" over front end, Z-bars, exhaust "dumps" amd a 16 (?)" rear tire. Rode the heck outta that bike during the original gas shortage in 1973. Sold it when i bought my first Sporster in '75. If it has some nostalgic value...do it. Don't think you will make much if you flip it. At least look a it.................................M

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Actually the CB450 is thought of from many in the Japaneses forums for getting the most power for size. Bang for the buck, so to speak. Believe you get an honest 40 hp. If you are looking for a vintage bike, I don't think you'd be disappointed once in good running order. Flipping Honda vintage bikes doesn't seem like a money maker unless you have perfected an efficient restoration process or starting with a more rare bike.

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Do not underestimate the CB450, they make one hell of a vintage road racer.


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I got in touch with the seller. He said he bought it last winter and started to restore it then decided to stop when it started getting hard to shift. He told me all it needs to be rideable is a throttle.

I also gathered that it definitely needs...
- grips
- throttle assembly

It needs...
- tires
- chain and sprockets

He said he leaves it outside chained to a tree when the weather is nice. I'm going to stop and look at it tomorrow.

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Do not underestimate the CB450, they make one hell of a vintage road racer.

Now thats sweet , front drum brake and all ! What year is it?

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Forgot to mention he has no title and it's a 1972. He had it licensed using a title for a 1971 I think he said CB125

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With no title it really isn't worth getting. It is almost impossible to get a title for a vehicle if you don't allready have one.
I went down that road with a 82 cb450 nighthawk I eneded up haveing to sell it for parts.

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You can get it titled if you have a legitimate bill of sale, but it's a pain. Sounds like a basket case but you never know. Make sure you take your camera when you stop to check it out.

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You can get it titled if you have a legitimate bill of sale, but it's a pain. Sounds like a basket case but you never know. Make sure you take your camera when you stop to check it out.
I've already dropped an email to the DMV about what I need to do to ensure getting a title. The weather is nice this morning so I plan on stopping by on the way to work. I'm charging the camera batteries now.

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With no title it really isn't worth getting. It is almost impossible to get a title for a vehicle if you don't allready have one.
I went down that road with a 82 cb450 nighthawk I eneded up haveing to sell it for parts.
FYI Your state SUCKS when it comes to dealing with title issues.

I won't go into specifics, but getting something generic from them has taken months. They've even violated national law for me. Isn't that wonderful?

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Forgot to mention he has no title and it's a 1972. He had it licensed using a title for a 1971 I think he said CB125
Piece of cake! I just got a title for one of my bikes. Will cost 125 via internet services. For me, I got it through a local service at 250. I didn't know about the internet recovery service.

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I went and looked at it this morning. It has some rust, but most looks like surface rust. I didn't see any rust holes in the frame, but there was some rust. The rear sprocket is almost missing its teeth, and the engine is oxidized pretty badly. The tank had obviously been skim coated and sanded before being hit with primer. It is missing the tank emblems. The side covers are there and have the Double Overhead Cam emblems, but they are in rough shape. Tires are holding air but need replacing, spokes were all straight from what I could see and just needed a good cleaning. ODO says 27,xxx miles. Here are some pics.

My guess is the seller is an older guy who just piddles with old stuff. He had an old Suzuki GS sitting right next to this bike that he rides for $800. Also had what looked like a mid 40s Packard in primer black in his driveway. Combine that with a minivan, airforce sticker on the back hatch, veteran plates, and living in the old people part of town, I made my assumption. I was hoping he would come out while I was looking but he didn't.
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Needs lots of TLC. To restore it to anything other than a beater would be cost prohibitive I'm afraid, you'd never come close to recouping your investment.

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That was my thought after seeing many more missing parts than I expected. It might make a good parts bike for someone, but I'm not about to dump money into this. For the purchase price plus title, I could get the Q2 intercom system I want, or a PCIII so I'll just have to pass on this one. I wouldn't mind a nice restoration project because I like that kind of thing, but I can't spend a fortune on it either.

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I would offer $80 & part it

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Might not break even for $80. IMO: walk away!

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What are we talking about? I have totally forgotten about it already.

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