Originally Posted by filipinoaviator
I recently traded my 2001 Harley FXDL straight across for a 2005 Honda ST1300. As much as I priced out accessories to make the Harley a better interstate bike, I decided it was time to simply get a better interstate bike. It's similar to when I had a Shadow 750 ACE and instead of rejetting/modding/accessorizing I simply traded it for a 919. The guy I traded with said that now that he's in his mid-50s, the ST is too fast for him. The FXDL ended up being his 10th Harley and was happy to find that it was a carbureted "REAL HARLEY"
First off, the bike has 48k miles. Nothing for a Honda right? Seems to be OK on maintenance (but all too often people have the mentality of it needs nothing so it gets nothing), and only mods are bar risers, heated grips, and a Corbin seat. I've had a 2004 FJR1300 and a 1991 ST1100 so I'm no stranger to couch-missiles.
-Compared to the FJR, build quality is better. My FJR fell apart every time I rode it. After a trip from Arkansas to Pennsylvania the bike blew out a fork seal and started drinking oil at 25k miles. I hope others have better luck than I did and supposedly the later models fixed all the issues the 2004s had.
-Compared to the ST1100, the fuel injection is nice even though the carburetors never gave me any issues on the 1100. And luggage security is far superior and more ergonomic. The bags are easier to get on and off, and there's only one lock per bag. The ST1100 had keyholes EVERYWHERE. The ST1300 has a nice layout and both are honestly top notch in quality. The 1100 also had an awful electrical system and a timing belt to replace which I remedied early on in ownership.
-It's addicting (and really really dumb), but whacking the throttle in first makes the front wheel jump off the ground.
-She thicc. And tall. And did I mention heavy?? My 32" inseam is unable to flatfoot the bike with the corbin seat.
-Compared to the FJR, it's the fat and ugly cousin. The FJR looked better, performed better, and was overall a better sport touring bike. I enjoyed riding the FJR but working on the FJR was one of the worst bikes I've ever had. The FJR was often confused for a sport bike that someone dumped miracle-grow on... Not the case with the ST1300.
--The FJR could easily handle high speed touring (hmmm... that may be what caused the oil usage issue) and setting the throttle lock above 90 was part of all interstate travels. The ST1300, although heavier, doesn't feel stable at elevated speeds.
-Compared to the ST1100, it's not THAT much better. I hate having to run premium gas in it vs the 1100 preferred 87. I actually preferred the ugly duckling look of the ST1100. It was unapologetic about its comfort. The 1300 seems like she's trying too hard to be something more. The fixed 1100 windshield was actually better than the infinitely adjustable buffeting screen on the 1300.
I've been riding the ST1300 a fair amount. My rankings of the three bikes are:
It's honestly disappointing after riding the other bikes. The 1300 always had a hype about it, but now that I have one, it's simply okay. Don't get me wrong, the bike starts, runs, and rides like a good motorcycle should, but Honda really engineered out the character and fun factor. If I get another sofa-rocket, it might be a late model FJR.
Just saw this thread, though it’s old, so not sure if you made a change yet.
You may consider the KTM Super Duke GT as a sport tourer if you are looking for a heavy emphasis on the sport side and fun factor.
IMO, in that category (1200-1400 cc torquey/performance oriented touring bikes) the KTM 1290 engine is untouchable for wild, smile on your face every time you twist the throttle, fun.
I recently rode a 2019 BMW R1250R on a demo ride. Was right behind the leader (on a GS1250). Hit a straight and he did a 45 mph to 105 mph pull. I bounced it off the rev limiter in 3rd and 4th.
After riding the KTM 1290 for 11k miles, the BMW was just meh, even though the stated torque specs are the same.
They are relatively cheap for 2016-18 slightly used or new/old stock, compared to the original MSRP. 2019’s are an updated model and likely run MSRP.