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post #1 of 38 Old 08-07-2007, 11:20 AM Thread Starter
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Targeted enforcement at the Tail of the Dragon

Watch yourselves out there people. It seems the THP, along with the Blount County Sherriff's Dept. has been given some extra funding for some targeted enforcement around Deal's Gap.

http://www.tailofthedragon.com/

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EMAIL FROM TENNESSEE HIGHWAY PATROL:
As you have noticed, the THP has started an enforcement program in the Deals Gaps Area of Hwy. 129. Some people are very upset with this effort and some people applaud it as long overdue. We are receivingemails on both sides of the issue. I can tell you in the past year, wereceived calls and emails every few days that ask us to do "something"in this area. The overwhelming majority of people describe this area as "total chaos and lawlessness." When you combine these type of descriptions and the statistical information on crashes and fatalities (three fatalities in one weekend two weeks ago), we felt like we had to do something as a public safety organization. You may not agree with our program but it is aimed at protecting the public who frequent that area and ride in a safe manner. It has nothing to do with "quotas" and
driving tourism from Tennessee. Anyone who rides in that area and does so safely is always welcome and will not have any problem with the THP. We will continue to conduct our enforcement program for the near future in an effort to make Deals Gap a safe place for recreational motorcycle activity.

Lt. Colonel Tracy G. Trott
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TAIL OF THE DRAGON ANSWERS:
Lt. Colonel Trott:

Why can't governmental agencies take intelligent approaches to problems? Your "enforcement program" is actually a shut-down and will be viewed by many law abiding visitors to your state as harassment. In the end it will result in reduced revenue, many complaints from tourists and affected businesses where a more logical approach could have satisfied everyone.

Tail of the Dragon has pleaded with Blount County Sheriff's Office and the Tennessee Highway Patrol for years to provide routine enforcement on US129 in order to keep the "chaos and lawlessness" as you describe to a minimum. There had not been a death on the Dragon for eleven months prior to the increase in enforcement which was begun by Blount County Sheriff's Office on July 1. The three deaths you mentioned all occurred after this "safety program" was implemented. Two of the deaths were a couple in their 70s on a trike .... so much for the "total chaos and lawlessness" crowd.

Over this past weekend there were two traffic fatalities within 65 miles of the Dragon. If you had not saturated this 11 miles of US129 with Troopers perhaps these other accidents could have been avoided.

Your program will continue to be presented on our TailoftheDragon.com website for what it is. Perhaps someone in power will see the ridiculous extremes presented by your governmental bureaucracy and take action.

Sincerely,
Ron and Nancy Johnson

The State of Tennessee has allocated funds to assist Blount County Sheriff and Tennessee Highway Patrol in patrolling the Dragon according to a BCSO spokesperson. Riders can expect daily patrols with increased activities during the weekends. TALK ABOUT AN UNDERSTATEMENT !!! Sheriff Berong needs to retrain his spokesperson.

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Hopefully they won't go overboard...

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Too late for that. Click on the site button, and scroll down to see all the pics.

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Well that looks like it sucks...
wonder what impact this will have on business???

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A million $$ so far.

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From emails sent to us the state of Tennessee has lost more than a million dollars in revenue from people changing their reservations to North Carolina, Kentucky or Virginia. Several major businesses have vowed to cancel all deals with Tennessee amounting to millions more.

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Crap. I'm going to be there in 2 days for my first Dragon experience.

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Doesn't look fun at all!

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Crap. I'm going to be there in 2 days for my first Dragon experience.
While you're there, hang your license, registration and insurance information abour your neck for easy access. You'll probably be asked for it frequently.

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Crap. I'm going to be there in 2 days for my first Dragon experience.
Yep, you were the first person I thought of when I read this. Sorry it had to happen before your trip. Maybe it's wise to take a leisurely stroll up to the store and ask about the enforcement before taking a trip to the overlook. If it's still bad, enjoy NC28, and the BRP. Save Deal's for another trip.

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wow... never expected to see that many cops, I was hoping to ride down there next spring...

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I'm guessing the excessive enforcement will continue until a trooper kills a couple of innocent bikers while chasing another biker for doing 45 in a 35.

Gotta admit, if I lived on that road I'd get annoyed with all the traffic, bikes and cars.
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post #13 of 38 Old 08-07-2007, 04:58 PM
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Gotta admit, if I lived on that road I'd get annoyed with all the traffic, bikes and cars.
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I agree, but there's no driveways, etc. on the Dragon.

But I will admit, it's a public highway, and through the years I've seen some really stupid crap going on through there. I think the worst was when the "street illegal" pocketbikes and motards starting showing up. Street legal stuff is one thing, but that totally wasted it.

It is a fun run though, when you're not fearing your liscense. The impact on some of the newly opened motorcycle friendly motel spots will surely suffer.

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Sounds like fun to me!

Sources tell us that The Tennessee Department of Transportation today announced that will install 99 speed reducers (speed bumps) on US 129 (Known as “The Dragon” by local motorcycle enthusiasts in 2008, including 35
new reducers at “priority areas” identified as trouble spots.
Speed reducers have been shown to be among the most effective of all
traffic calming devices at reducing vehicle speeds, and since 2004 DOT has installed
more than 200 of them in the vicinity of schools in and they proved to be a effective deterrent
“Speed reducers are one of a number of tools we’re using to encourage
drivers to slow down and take a little extra time to navigate the dangerous curves on this stretch of road “Keeping our citizens safe on their way to and from the resort areas in North Carolina.
Repeated calls to the North Carolina DOT asking if they would follow Tennessee’s lead in installing speed deterrents on the North Carolina portion of the road have not been returned.

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Just what we need, a speed bump in the apex of a decreasing radius turn.

There are almost no straight sections on that road to put a speed bump on without the possibility of worse damage to a motorcycle.

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Ugh. That is so irksome. Talk about lack of long range vision. Don't they realize that a large chunk of the traffic going through there is from sports enthusiasts wanting a fun ride, and if you put all that there, people are gonna stop coming? Yes, thank you, kill small businesses in that area.

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Sounds like motards are gonna own that road now.

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Well, I really wanted to take a trip out there, but now. Hell, if I go I will just pull over next to the cop, pull out my license and reg, and ask him if he wanted to see it before I continue on. I wonder what THP would do if everyone on a bike started doing that. Better yet we can start the first TAIL OF THE DRAGON BIKE WALK! Come on down and join ust as we take our beloved motorcycles for a stroll down the tail and enjoy nature at its finest. At a nice THP friendly speed. You might as well leave your keys in your pocket. Hell leave them in the motel room.

On the bright side, if you want to put up with it, the prices for hotels should go down.

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Sounds like motards are gonna own that road now.
No kidding, the speed bumps will just add some fun!

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Patrols on Dragon to receive funding


By Joel Davis
Of The Daily Times Staff

The Blount County Budget Committee and Purchasing Commission on Monday gave its OK to spending a special grant from the state to fund Sheriff’s Office patrols on The Dragon.

Assistant Chief Jeff French said the Sheriff’s Office had been providing the patrols since June.

“This is just a special grant the state has given us for the patrols we’ve been doing on (U.S.) 129 during the peak months of the summer,” he said.

The Dragon refers to the 11.1-mile stretch of U.S. 129 which runs from Tabcat Creek to Deal’s Gap at the Tennessee and North Carolina line. Known worldwide as a premier ride for motorcyclists, the section of roadway has 318 curves. There have been fatalities on that stretch of roadway in 2007, causing safety concerns.

The Budget Committee voted unanimously to approve the request.
source: http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pb.../NEWS/70911003

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"F" those cops, save your money and go to a track day.

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I'd rather find a 50-100 mile set of nice country roads instead of messin around with one 11 mile piece chock full o'cops.

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What they should do is make it a one-way road...

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What they should do is make it a one-way road...
Now that's a good idea.

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I agree that if there's enough traffic drop to hurt the businesses, likely the cops will have to ease up. If no one uses the road at all, makes a ghost town out of it, the THP will have spent a whole lot of money on nothing. Ha !

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It seems to be a case of a few squids ruining it for the vast majority of responsible riders.

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Well, scratch one road off my wish list.

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You probably have a few good ole boys that are in local government that see the money some of the local businesses are making and aren't happy that they aren't getting a piece. Therefore, they use the laws in their favor to drive down business to be able to buy up property and businesses on the cheap. Then they go back to the good ole days and everyone lives happily after, except for the previous business and property owners.

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From what I understand, the main focus is the Dragon itself.
I've been in that area a number of times and there are a lot of great roads to ride in the area other then the Dragon.

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Hey Sporty......whaaaaasssss-sup? Where you been? Be nice, I'm just asking.

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Hey Sporty......whaaaaasssss-sup? Where you been? Be nice, I'm just asking.
You really do feel lucky don't cha?

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You really do feel lucky don't cha?
Kinda like a guy Preying Mantis going up to a Girl Preying Mantis and saying "Whaaaaassssssss-up Beotch!"

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Stick it up your poop chute!

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Stick it up your poop chute!
You and async gotta get some new gaffs baby. That is not up to par for such an illustrious member of this site, such that you are.

Example, "Look Dave, why don't you sit on a SawsAll and plug it in"

Or

"Bigdaa, if I gotta listen to your bullshiit any more, I'm gonna go VanGough on both my ears"

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From what I understand, the main focus is the Dragon itself.
I've been in that area a number of times and there are a lot of great roads to ride in the area other then the Dragon.
Yes this is what I hear as well. I leave for TN and the GAP tomorrow morning, and I know we are going to be spending a lot of time riding other roads, so when we hit the Dragon I'm just going to cruise and chill out.

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