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So big changes in my life due to my wife's work. We'll be moving to Philly this summer from California. If I had a choice in the matter I'd never move to the east coast, but since I don't I'm trying to think of all the positive things about it. This will be my opportunity to see the whole east coast and just have new experiences (plus it's only for a few years). I debated for a bit if I'd take the 919 since the weather sucks out there. I think I've decided that it will go with me so I can do weekend and day trips to explore the area.

So how is riding in the Philly area? I've been there once for a weekend last summer but didn't see much more than the city. I may need to pick up some cold weather riding gear now. Once I used my snowboard gloves as an emergency kind of, but other then that it's never cold enough hear to need more then my normal gloves.

Anyone know the best neighborhoods to live in? My wife has lived there before so that's making it a little easier to chose a place, but we're trying to avoid the cost of flying out just to secure a place.

Should I bring my surfboards and flip flops? Actually, I think I'm going too. Looks like weekend trips to the coast would be possible.

I haven't started looking for a new job yet, but will be doing that soon.

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around here is called "Philthy", not Philly. be prepared. that place is nasty

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around here is called "Philthy", not Philly. be prepared. that place is nasty
Yea, because Dirty Jersey is so much better.



Philly isn't bad just like any place (including jersey) depends what part you live in. All I know is once you are in or near town sucks!

Motards and the like probably aren't so bad. Especially if you are not afraid of splitting traffic (which is illegal in pa). I don't do it but I don't know any other way of avoiding walking your bike down 95 in bumper to bumper traffic.

Personally I would suggest a suburb. My work has an office in Horsham which is like 10 mins out. Not so bad semi-rural but you know your close to the shitty still.

Either way I have no room to talk city live in a very "country-type" area. Just my 2 pennies.

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Don't leave us Brutha for an Xwife's job! I'd rather live in my cage than leave Cali.
I lived in Philly for a couple years at the Parkway House, and met Smoking Joe Frazer there. If cages/bikes aren't BIG chained down they grow legs and disappear.

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The weather out here isn't that bad! The riding season is fairly long and the snow is only a threat for three months or so. There is quite a bit of good riding north of Philly - basically all the way up to the Delaware Water Gap, which is about 80 or 90 miles north. Some decent scenic and semi-twisty rides along the Delaware river can be found with a little exploring.

Being out here for a few years should be a great experience - there are a lot of interesting places you can hit on day/weekend trips (D.C., NYC, parts of the Jersey shore, finger lakes winery region of NY, etc...).

I agree with WheelieTime on the suburban living - I would look to the areas north of the city, but north-west has some reasonable areas too. The specific towns/areas are going to depend in your commuting tolerance - getting into the city can be a real PITA... A 60 mile commute into the city for a conference last Thursday took 2.5 hours! And that was leaving at 6:30am (I thought I'd be ahead of the traffic).

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there is some good riding in PA for sure. Definitely bring the bike.
While nothing will be the same as CA if you've got no choice like you say, you might as well make the best of it. But never move anywhere without the bike!
I'm in south Jersey, about 30 minutes east of Philly and used to love riding my 919 into the city when I had to go do service there. It was far easier to get in/out and park than a work van.
Riding to the coast is always fun even if it is just the 'Jersey Shore'. There are nicer parts than others.
You can snowboard in the Poconos or VT isn't too far for better hills.
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Also, I live in Allentown area- not in the town just near it. I know many people that commute to Philly. It is about 45 mins down the turnpike. If you do end up in the general area hit me up and I will gladly provide a guided tour of many mountainess roads.

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+1 on the tour - I'll be happy to participate!

Wheelie - I didn't realize that you're so close - I'm just north of Easton (Forks Township). We'll have to meet-up for some riding!

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+1 on the tour - I'll be happy to participate!

Wheelie - I didn't realize that you're so close - I'm just north of Easton (Forks Township). We'll have to meet-up for some riding!
Awesome, you definitely aren't that far.

Also I know roads in most of the circle'd areas shown.

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Awesome, you definitely aren't that far.

Also I know roads in most of the circle'd areas shown.
That's perfect - I basically ride/know some good roads to the left of where you circled all the way from down by Philly up to Milford (not far from the NY border). Between the two of us we have a good are covered!

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Philly sucks and it's nasty! I was told that Philly would be a nice friendly working class Boston ... not even close. The positive is that the areas around Philly are nice. Depending on where your wife will be working will depend on where you will live. Do you like the "city" or "burbs" environment. I'm in Cherry Hill, NJ and can see Philly from my office (just over the bridge in NJ). I was thinking of Chestnut Hill in the Philly area, but didn't want to deal with a commute.

I still have permanent residence in Mass, yes permanent, I will always have a place there until I die. There is decent boarding and skiing in the N.E. The shore provides for surfing also.

Look at the positive. NYC is not that far, Boston is fairly close, DC is a nice visit. The Outer Banks is a great place.

Give a shout out to some of us in the area and things will be good.

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IMHO Philly sucks....I live in the Pocono's (about 90 miles North) and there can be some great riding but it all depends o when the roads were last repaved. Will all the frost heaves in the Winter it really F's up the roads in a short period so you have to ride around and find the freshly paved ones and stick to those for a year or two.




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Im only 20 minutes over the bridge in jersey. south jersey has some nice back roads to ride. Jersey shore is nice to explore on bike. Ill ride with you.

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philly sucks, move to jersey. Once here, you will have to pay to leave, literally

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So it's not the city of brotherly love where everyone holds hands and skips around?

Thanks for all the info. I'm looking forward to doing some rides there.

I'm really disappointed to hear that lane splitting is not legal. I do that almost every day and it saves a ton of time at the lights. What's the fine for that? Any chance it's one of those things that they turn a blind eye to most of the time? I kind of doubt it with how most city's are hurting for cash.

It looks like the wife and I are leaning toward the burbs so we can have a yard and a garage. The commute time will be the biggest factor. My wife's work schedule will be quite hectic so I don't want her spending to much time sitting in the car exhausted. And me, I'm practically allergic to traffic so I don't want to live too far from the city. I'm assuming most jobs are in the city, especially financial ones

We'll be bringing the snowboards, but after mostly boarding tahoe and mammoth I doubt I'll want to go to the mountains there much. I am thinking about getting into cross country skiing though. Got to find something to do during the winter.

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Don't leave us Brutha for an Xwife's job! I'd rather live in my cage than leave Cali.
I lived in Philly for a couple years at the Parkway House, and met Smoking Joe Frazer there. If cages/bikes aren't BIG chained down they grow legs and disappear.
current and only wife ha ha.

Hey, I'm going to be doing a little norcal mountain bike trip sometime in June to say bye to some friends and get my last fill of the mountains there for the next few years. Let me know if your interested in meeting in downieville for a ride or something like that.

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i have family in redondo beach so i've been to sd/ so cali many times.

here's how i see it.

weather--you,hands down
traffic--about a tie, it sucks here and there
seasons(xmas)---us
beach---tie(you/babes-us/better sand,boardwalk food)
food--us i've had you "cheesesteaks"and they are BAD

from philly you can be in the mountians,beach,dc,nyc in 2 hrs or less.

and the big one...........................THE DRAGON IN 10 HRS

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If you ever decide to see a sporting event in Philly (baseball, football, hockey, basketball, whatever) just be prepared... They are probably the worst fans in the world. In the article you'll notice that this family wasn't even wearing another team's hats/jerseys, they just asked an idiot to knock-off the swearing. This stuff, and worse (stabbings, beatings, etc), happen quite often at Philly sports venues.

Easton police Capt. Michael Vangelo, family are victims of unruly Phillies fans | - lehighvalleylive.com

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There's good and bad in any place and Philly tends to get a bad rap more then other cities. I have been to football games in other cities and see the same stuff the the Philly fans get chided for. The media just loves to get on the Philly fans because of the B.S. Santa stuff from 40 years ago. I grew up and now live in reading about an hour and a half from downtown and in between I lived in West Chester (30 minutes southwest and if you can afford it I would look into there, small town but has a college so there is always something to do plus close to highways) and on 20th and south which was nice. In the city I would look at south philly between 2nd and ninth and christian and snyder. Stay as close to the river as you can afford. Bella Vista is nice too. Good restaurants and bars. As for the suburbs if your job is in the city get as close to a septa line as you can. Less headache then driving but probably the same amount of time with all the stops. There are finance companies in the suburbs like Conshohocken, King of Prussia and Plymouth meeting. All fine places to live. BTW I have rode to work 7 out of 10 days the last two weeks. Weather is not an issue for 9 months.

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If you ever decide to see a sporting event in Philly (baseball, football, hockey, basketball, whatever) just be prepared... They are probably the worst fans in the world. In the article you'll notice that this family wasn't even wearing another team's hats/jerseys, they just asked an idiot to knock-off the swearing. This stuff, and worse (stabbings, beatings, etc), happen quite often at Philly sports venues.

Easton police Capt. Michael Vangelo, family are victims of unruly Phillies fans | - lehighvalleylive.com
The dude in that link is lucky just one eye is swelled shut.

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The dude in that link is lucky just one eye is swelled shut.
Here's one of my favorite videos of a Phillies fan getting what he deserves:
YouTube - Phillies Fan Falls Off Moving Cab

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I was looking for the video where the guy was climbing the light pole after the world series in '09 and got nailed with a 40 bottle and came across this toddler at the parade instead.

YouTube - Toddler Leads the Celebration

The parade was supposed to take 2 hours but ended up being closer to 5 because of the amount of people that showed up.

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If you ever decide to see a sporting event in Philly (baseball, football, hockey, basketball, whatever) just be prepared... They are probably the worst fans in the world. In the article you'll notice that this family wasn't even wearing another team's hats/jerseys, they just asked an idiot to knock-off the swearing. This stuff, and worse (stabbings, beatings, etc), happen quite often at Philly sports venues.

Easton police Capt. Michael Vangelo, family are victims of unruly Phillies fans | - lehighvalleylive.com
thats 1 in 1000. did ya see the nice guy who gave the lil girl the ball he caught to give her something positive for the night?

plus the same shit happens at ny games we just don't hear about it.

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thats 1 in 1000. did ya see the nice guy who gave the lil girl the ball he caught to give her something positive for the night?

plus the same shit happens at ny games we just don't hear about it.
I agree that crazy fan stuff happens all over, but Philly seems to be the reigning champion of idiot fans. How many other cities have had a municipal court and jail cells in the stadium - with a judge sitting in there on game days? Even after they got rid of the court/judge when the Vet was replaced by the Linc, there were still four jail cells built into the new Vet.

The guy giving the girl the ball was a very kind gesture and classy move - there are still good people out there - it's the 1 in a 1000 that make those games not worth going to.

readinghornet, here's the video you were looking for - another one of my favorites! YouTube - Phils fan hit by bottle

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Me and my wife lived in Philly for a few years. We lived in Fishtown and thats about 15 min from downtown on the L train. The area was fine. Neighbors were friendly and most of the rowhomes were in good shape. If you're a foodie then Philly is the place. I worked in a couple of good restaurants over there. The Poconos sucked for snowboarding. There's nothing like packed powder in the Sierras. Don't know about bike riding cause I didn't have a bike then. If you want to live in the city definitely check out Fishtown or Northern Liberties.

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current and only wife ha ha.

Hey, I'm going to be doing a little norcal mountain bike trip sometime in June to say bye to some friends and get my last fill of the mountains there for the next few years. Let me know if your interested in meeting in downieville for a ride or something like that.
If my wife made bank I'd move too. So how tough will be for you to find work there? Lots of fun places in the Philly burbs. I use to enjoy the river and the nearby rolling hills. I use to play in the downtown parks as a kid until dark, and never had any problem, but things may have changed. Enjoyed the midget auto flat track races at Philly's stadium.

Riding DV is a great idea and motivates me to get more training so I can keep up. Blew off taking the MC to the Sea Otter Classic @Laguna Seca so we could enjoy a long tandem ride.

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BTW I have rode to work 7 out of 10 days the last two weeks. Weather is not an issue for 9 months.
That's good to hear!

I'm still bummed about lane splitting though.

I've heard terrible things about the fans in Philly. However, I just saw a guy get knocked out cold at the Long Beach Grand Prix. Stupid people are every where.

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