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post #1 of 20 Old 10-27-2018, 03:38 PM Thread Starter
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opinion Suzuki GSXS1000

Keeping a friends 2017 GSXS1000 for a few weeks for him.i am not a sit up sport bike fan so my comparison is bias.

1. Gauges suck, almost impossible to read speedo or tach going down the road without taking eyes off the road for to long.

2. plastic for the sake of plastic
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3. Seat hurt my crotch

4. Power in the range i mostly ride less than my 919

5. riding position hurt my wrist in 15 miles

6. shifting and engine smoothness about on par with my 919

I think my 919 is way better looking and i love my speedo and tach. I am sure the suzuki will outperform my 919 in the type of aggressive riding i do not do.
I like a soft suspension ride over rough roads and a very sit up riding position. That is why i bought a standard naked bike.
i doubt over the next few weeks i will ride it much. Everytime i ride one of his six motorcycles i am glad to get back on my 919.
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post #2 of 20 Old 10-27-2018, 03:56 PM
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Ha!...your mate needs six bikes just to do what one 919 can do!
I love my 919 too. In a few years I may consider the new Honda CB1000R but I'll probably keep my niner forever.

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post #3 of 20 Old 10-27-2018, 04:52 PM Thread Starter
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his other bikes
1. 2009 Yamaha V MAX modded to 184 RWHP
2. 2017 Kawa Z 900
3 2015 honda Valkyrie
4. 2013 Triumph [ forget name ] huge beast 3 cyl shaft drive
5. HD V Rod year ??

the only one i like is the Kawa Z 900.The V Max used to be fun until he made it so fast it is scary to ride. grab some throttle in 2nd gear and it comes up big time. 750 lb wheelie monster.

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post #4 of 20 Old 10-27-2018, 06:04 PM
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Handling comparison please

2007 919
2003 CBR1100XX
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post #5 of 20 Old 10-28-2018, 09:48 PM
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Motorcycle gauges are getting harder to read, as well as getting more complicated as time goes on. Just give me a good old analog tac, and a big ol digital Speedometer. If you need 3 ride modes, you bought too much motorcycle. I'm OK with traction control. But please, no ABS.

It's a shame to hear the big Suzie is so uncomfortable. I've not heard that before. But everybody is built a little different. Maybe it'll fit someone else. Give me lots of legroom, a narrow tank, and I make do with everything else.

"plastic for the sake of plastic". I don't like that either. Form should follow function. One of the dumbest things ever was to put a belly pan/scoop under a 919, or 599. Just stop already!

Review the Kawie, Please.

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post #6 of 20 Old 10-28-2018, 10:04 PM Thread Starter
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The Z 900 is a nice bike but i like the ill fated honda CB 1100 more. Why because honda had the guts to build a bike with a air cooled in line 4 when nobody else would. Also dual rear shocks. you want original honda made it and nobody bought them. The Z 900 being water cooled and mono shocked rear takes away from it being a retro bike.
Last year Honda started discounting the left over CB 1100s but at 7,000 plus all the fees i could not swing buying a new one.
I am happy a very nice 2,400 mile red 919 came into my life. My glass is over 1/2 full.
Back to the Z 900 ,the performance is equal to my 919 but not better. It is a looker if you do not mind the radiator.

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post #7 of 20 Old 10-30-2018, 07:26 AM
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The Honda CB1100 weighed aprox 560 pounds. It was listed to have 88 hp, and 67 lb ft torque. The wheels were spoked, 18 inchers. It looked OK at best, in my eyes.

The Kawasaki 900RS is listed at 111. I don't know if either of those hp figures are at the crank or rear wheel. Either way, the 460 pound Kawie has a much better power to weight ratio. The Kawie is a modern bike with retro looking body work. I can overlook the radiator.

I'd love to test ride the Kawie.

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post #8 of 20 Old 10-31-2018, 06:59 AM
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Motorcycle.com did a comparison between the GSX-S, and the 900RS. In short, they preferred the Kawie.
The Kawie seems to be the closest thing to a 919 that anyone has made since the 919 got discontinued.

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post #9 of 20 Old 10-31-2018, 11:32 AM
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I could easily see myself riding the kawasaki 900. Nice bike.

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post #10 of 20 Old 10-31-2018, 06:20 PM Thread Starter
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Did about 30 miles on the GSXS today
It is truly a crotch rocket sport bike with a better riding position than a GSXR. Its performance will exceed most riders ability. But like most sport bikes i do not like the hard seat and the bars are not for me. Vast improvement over a lay down race bike.
I bought the 919 because i do not need 140 HP and minimal comfort.
If performance is your thing and you do not mind a little discomfort the Suzuki is for you.
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The Honda CB1100 weighed aprox 560 pounds. It was listed to have 88 hp, and 67 lb ft torque. The wheels were spoked, 18 inchers. It looked OK
at best, in my eyes.

The Kawasaki 900RS is listed at 111. I don't know if either of those hp figures are at the crank or rear wheel. Either way, the 460 pound Kawie has a much better power to weight ratio. The Kawie is a modern bike with retro looking body work. I can overlook the radiator.

I'd love to test ride the Kawie.

I Would accept the the lack of performance for authentic retro looks and feel myself. that is why i wanted one. Most UJMs from that era were over 500 lbs and around 85 HP. My 1982 Suzuki GS 1100 es was one of my all time best motorcycles.

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A friend of mine had an 1100ES. You're right. That was one of the greats. Long, low, heavy, fast. They were cool. Good looking. Great build quality.

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I Would accept the the lack of performance for authentic retro looks and feel myself. that is why i wanted one. Most UJMs from that era were over 500 lbs and around 85 HP. My 1982 Suzuki GS 1100 es was one of my all time best motorcycles.
My CB1100 never felt slow, never felt scary fast either.
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post #14 of 20 Old 11-02-2018, 10:21 PM
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^That thing makes about the same HP as a piped and jetted 599. The 599 is about 150 pounds lighter tho. The CB1100 is about 120 pounds heavier, and 40 HP less than the Duc 848. Specs, (numbers) sell motorcycles. That thing has bad numbers.

Feel is subjective, when it comes to fast or not. But I don't see how 565 pounds of motorcycle couldn't feel heavy.

I rode that heavy, old crap way back when there was no choice. But in 2007, KTM gave us the 990 Super Duke that weighed 410 when it was low on gas. I weighed mine. Mine dynoed 114.5, 70 lb ft torque. All day comfortable. Nearly 12 years later, there are still very few motorcycles that have numbers like that. Sure, they've upped the HP, but the weight has gone up as well.

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^That thing makes about the same HP as a piped and jetted 599. The 599 is about 150 pounds lighter tho. The CB1100 is about 120 pounds heavier, and 40 HP less than the Duc 848. Specs, (numbers) sell motorcycles. That thing has bad numbers.

Feel is subjective, when it comes to fast or not. But I don't see how 565 pounds of motorcycle couldn't feel heavy.

I rode that heavy, old crap way back when there was no choice. But in 2007, KTM gave us the 990 Super Duke that weighed 410 when it was low on gas. I weighed mine. Mine dynoed 114.5, 70 lb ft torque. All day comfortable. Nearly 12 years later, there are still very few motorcycles that have numbers like that. Sure, they've upped the HP, but the weight has gone up as well.

I'm happy you found a bike you enjoy..............

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post #16 of 20 Old 11-08-2018, 07:53 AM Thread Starter
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Any motorcycle with 900+ cc 100 HP is fast. Faster than most riders can really use. I have been on motorcycles from 150 to 190 HP and all you can do is hang on for dear life at anything over 3/4 throttle.The new generation V MAX my friend has is so wicked to ride it is no longer fun to ride. The power commander gives it so much timing down low that you better be holding the grips firmly or you will come off the bike. Even as heavy as the V MAX is after the CAT eliminator pipe, air box mod and dyno tune [ 184 RWHP ] it is a monster.
I used to like riding it but not anymore.
I love the power delivery of my 919, you can use it all and lots of grunt down low. I did a ride in the mountains last sunday and mostly used 3 rd gear even in 20 mph corners. I would say the Suzuki GSXS is just about right power wise, around 140 HP and 460 lbs.My body just does not like the seat or riding position. The GSXS will sit in the garage and i will ride my trusty FUN 919.
I used to race drag bikes up to around 10 years ago so i am not over my head on these machines.

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post #17 of 20 Old 11-10-2018, 01:47 PM
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I stopped at Evansville Superbike today while my iPhone 7+ was getting its screen replaced. I looked at that Z900. Wow, that thing is sharp. But for $11,000 it had better. Man, I like that bike.

100 HP, and 100 MPH is plenty for what I do.

I wish I could afford one of everything.

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post #18 of 20 Old 11-10-2018, 08:18 PM
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It sounds amazing showroom stock. Very loud for a stock bike in 2018.

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post #19 of 20 Old 11-10-2018, 09:31 PM Thread Starter
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I saw a new Z 900 at a popular motorcycle hang out [ rock store ] . The owner found a metal tag KERKER used to put on their headers in the 70s. It was riveted on just like the old days, nice touch. The combination of the loud intake note and exhaust is loud for a modern bike. The catalytic converter does most of the sound deadening because that muffler is wide open like a aftermarket race baffle.

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post #20 of 20 Old 11-11-2018, 04:51 AM
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The collector, where the 4 pipes go into 1, is a dead ringer for a Kerker. I noticed that right away. The narrow stripe has a Z, at the very front of the tank. Nice touch. There is a lot to like about that thing. It is a lot of money, but no so much if you take into account that it doesn't need much in the way of mods. That's nice for guys like me that have grown tired of buying a motorcycle, then having to rectify all the short comings. I would probably just take the reflectors, and the warning stickers off it.

Now, all I have to do is sit back and wait for a used one to come up for sale; preferably the PO will be an old dude.

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