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post #1 of 21 Old 11-30-2007, 04:45 PM Thread Starter
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new NC law

The new law goes into effect tomorrow for all of NC.


AN ACT to allow the operator of a motorcycle to proceed through an intersection controlled by a traffic signal only if the traffic signal uses an inductive loop vehicle sensor that activates the traffic signal and the inductive loop fails to detect the motorcycle and activate the traffic signal.



The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts:



SECTION 1. G.S. 20‑158 is amended by adding a new subsection to read:

"§ 20‑158. Vehicle control signs and signals.



(e) Defense. – It shall be a defense to a violation of sub-subdivision (b)(2)a. of this section if the operator of a motorcycle, as defined in G.S. 20‑4.01(27)d., shows all of the following:

(1) The operator brought the motorcycle to a complete stop at the intersection or stop bar where a steady red light was being emitted in the direction of the operator.

(2) The intersection is controlled by a vehicle actuated traffic signal using an inductive loop to activate the traffic signal.

(3) No other vehicle that was entitled to have the right-of-way under applicable law was sitting at, traveling through, or approaching the intersection.

(4) No pedestrians were attempting to cross at or near the intersection.

(5) The motorcycle operator who received the citation waited a minimum of three minutes at the intersection or stop bar where the steady red light was being emitted in the direction of the operator before entering the intersection."

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post #2 of 21 Old 11-30-2007, 04:52 PM
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3 minutes is a heck of a long time.

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yeah but it's a good step forward. will probably allow for a bit more leniency from the LEOs

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post #4 of 21 Old 11-30-2007, 06:07 PM Thread Starter
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even though motorcyclists can run red lights now it seems like there are still alot of actions to follow before doing so.

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post #5 of 21 Old 11-30-2007, 06:09 PM
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Better than having to set there for the rest of your life.

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post #6 of 21 Old 11-30-2007, 08:19 PM
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3 minutes is waaaaaaaaaay tooooooo looooooong.

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post #7 of 21 Old 11-30-2007, 09:23 PM
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Law or not, I've been doing this for years. Especially at unpopulated intersections. In town I usually have the option of cutting through a parking lot to get around a PITA traffic light. Even a local LEO said he wouldn't pull over a bike if he saw it happen.

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post #8 of 21 Old 12-01-2007, 03:58 AM
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It always gave me a chance to touch up my make-up, maybe chat with the Harley guy waiting next to me.
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post #9 of 21 Old 12-01-2007, 06:18 AM Thread Starter
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some spots i can take a quick coffee break

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post #10 of 21 Old 12-01-2007, 08:12 AM
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Three min sounds right to me.Even in a cage it would take a bit to change.

I think we all do this anyway might as well put it on the books!

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post #11 of 21 Old 12-01-2007, 08:23 AM
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yep been threw this lots near my house. bike never trips the light...




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It always gave me a chance to touch up my make-up, maybe chat with the Harley guy waiting next to me.
Sounds just like what Ridge... would to at a light?

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post #13 of 21 Old 12-01-2007, 11:40 AM
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even though motorcyclists can run red lights now it seems like there are still alot of actions to follow before doing so.
That's true, but it does open the door. A positive direction for a despised (maybe that's a bit strong...) group of our society!

When I was in Japan in '98, I saw that downtown Tokyo was the place to own a bike. Riding a bike gave you the same rights as a vehicle and a pedestrian. You had the best of both worlds. I guess it makes sense in a jam-packed space, but it makes sense here, too. The whole idea is to keep slow/stopped traffic to a minimum. With a growing segment of our country riding motorcycles, we should have a modified set of rules to live by. Cagers not pissed because they just go too damn slow for us, and us, because we can get in and out and really take advantage of our choice in transportation! I'm writing my congressman right now!

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We have a similar law here in CA, but I've been getting around it by putting the bike on the stand, walking over to a corner and pushing the pedestrian crossing button in the appropriate direction. Occasionally it changes before I can get back to the bike. Of course, it doesn't help if you are trying to make a left turn.

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I got to legally run my first red light today!! Yeah, I might not have waited 3 minutes or the full light cycle, but what the hey.
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Awesome.great stuff.
I wish more states would adapt this law.
Nemely, VA.

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post #17 of 21 Old 12-11-2007, 07:22 AM
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WI has had this law for some time now. Our waiting period is 75 seconds. An odd number but very convenient.

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post #18 of 21 Old 12-11-2007, 08:17 AM
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75 seconds is definitely more reasonable than 3 minutes.

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We had that in TN - you had to wait 90 seconds, but, as long as you stop and its all clear no cops will give you a hard time . About time NC cought up with TN - Heheehe !

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Don't you think if they allow "lane splitting" or "white line" this would alleviate this problem. If no one is at the interstection, your gonna run the light anyway.

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post #21 of 21 Old 12-11-2007, 09:04 PM Thread Starter
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i think lane splitting should be allowed in all states. definately help everyone there. as long as people would be sensable about it.

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