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post #1 of 19 Old 04-30-2010, 10:28 PM Thread Starter
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New 12volt shiatsu massager installed on bike

Ok, not really. It's actually the beginnning stages of the cruise control install I contemplated a year ago on the 919....finally coming to life.

















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intresting.... i have a very simple little thing that clamps down on the throttle tube to do the same thing. But hey thats a sexy way to go bout it.

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intresting.... i have a very simple little thing that clamps down on the throttle tube to do the same thing. But hey thats a sexy way to go bout it.
Yeah, I've used a throttle lock on the last 3 bikes i've owned. I've got a very nice Kaoko on this Tiger as well. Unfortunately none of them did the "same" thing.

I'm all sober now and going out to start the electrical hook ups.

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Over my head, but, better have a good kill switch, don't do a Toyoto ride of your life!

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Over my head, but, better have a good kill switch, don't do a Toyoto ride of your life!
Brake and clutch switches are built into the kill circuit. There is also a reliance on ACC power and the native clutch action and kill switch to fall back on. The only thing I won't have is over-rev protection if it slips out of gear. <<< still thinking aobut that one.

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I can certainly understand the advantages of CC over a throttle lock....
However I would not do it. But that is me.
I like throttle locks for what I use them for.
-Temporary relief for my hand.

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I did install a similar unit on my old AMX. It works... not as well as a factory installed unit... but for long drives in that car... it made it easier to keep it under control (cruise control was a solution after being pulled multiple times in a short peroid)

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Brake and clutch switches are built into the kill circuit. There is also a reliance on ACC power and the native clutch action and kill switch to fall back on. The only thing I won't have is over-rev protection if it slips out of gear. <<< still thinking aobut that one.
thats what the rev limiter is for... its not like the CC is going to be anywhere near WOT...

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I like it, and will be VERY impressed with your challenging install if it survives your long punishing rides. My $15 throttle palm rest CC works well...but must be checked before every ride so it doesn't block the brake lever like on my last ride....

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thats what the rev limiter is for... its not like the CC is going to be anywhere near WOT...
agreed on both points

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I like it, and will be VERY impressed with your challenging install if it survives your long punishing rides. My $15 throttle palm rest CC works well...but must be checked before every ride so it doesn't block the brake lever like on my last ride....
I'll be impressed if the thing even works. I just got back from my first test run which was a flop. She doesn't engage. It passed all of the diagnostic tests in the manual so it may be something simple. I think my cluch switch may be showing it neutral or something other than open. I'm going to go check that....

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I'll be impressed if the thing even works. I just got back from my first test run which was a flop. She doesn't engage. It passed all of the diagnostic tests in the manual so it may be something simple. I think my cluch switch may be showing it neutral or something other than open. I'm going to go check that....
Bolt on a VOM to your HB to debug... Did you silver solder all the leads? Hope you have the polarities correct to keep the operation smoke in your ECU...

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VOM, check
BH, what's that?
Solder, yes I always solder and heat shrink, sometimes tape on top of that
Smoke inside ECU,check

She runs fine and the servo diagnostics are still passing. I've tried every combination of DIP settings that make sense to me but it still doesn't "set".

I'm going to call the manufacturer tomorrow for some guidance.

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Bolt on a VOM to your HB to debug... Did you silver solder all the leads? Hope you have the polarities correct to keep the operation smoke in your ECU...
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VOM, check
BH, what's that?
Cool project TJ. That bike is gonna be a touring machine when it's done. The massager aint a half bad idea too .

I think dream was telling you to bolt a VOM to your handlebars so you can troubleshoot while your riding....either that or he meant H1B in which case your gonna need a pickup truck and a quick Spanish tutorial.

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Cool project TJ. That bike is gonna be a touring machine when it's done. The massager aint a half bad idea too .

I think dream was telling you to bolt a VOM to your handlebars so you can troubleshoot while your riding....either that or he meant H1B in which case your gonna need a pickup truck and a quick Spanish tutorial.
Yes MM understood my joke about the VOM on the bars to check is a a bump shorts out the magic unqualified circuit. It is very rare to find an H1B that speaks Spanish.

Hope you flip the right bit on your CC and keep the smoke in your ECU!

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I know from firsthand experience in automotive wiring that replacing the smoke if it gets out of the wires can be expensive...the kits are hard to find, it's hard to put the smoke back in, and the aftermarket smoke just doesn't ever smell quite like it should.

Well, fire the engines! Spur this iron space-pony on!

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I'm still stumped. I tihnk it the VSS being out of the range of the Rostra unit.

By my math the Tiger puts out 54,XXX pulses per mile whereas the Rostra will only setup for 38,XXX.

I'll ask the tech dudes tomorrow if this would prevent the unit from "setting" or only cause hunting and seeking issues in use. I think there may be a divider in my future.

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I'm still stumped. I tihnk it the VSS being out of the range of the Rostra unit.

By my math the Tiger puts out 54,XXX pulses per mile whereas the Rostra will only setup for 38,XXX.

I'll ask the tech dudes tomorrow if this would prevent the unit from "setting" or only cause hunting and seeking issues in use. I think there may be a divider in my future.
Can you borrow a scope and verify they are compatible? That converter could be the missing link. Keep the magic smoke in your ECU.

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I spoke to Rostra techncal support this morning. He agreed that my VSS is probably too far out of range. I picked up a pulse divider for $35 plus shipping and will have to wait until it arrives to determine if that's the issue. It's a shame I didn't go with the olderbAudiovox CCS-100 which is well known to work with the coil for speed control versus the ECM/VSS. I found the CCS-100 are out of production, though not impossible to source.

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It's a shame I didn't go with the olderbAudiovox CCS-100 which is well known to work with the coil for speed control versus the ECM/VSS. I found the CCS-100 are out of production, though not impossible to source.
That would be too easy, where's the fun in that?

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