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post #1 of 14 Old 07-24-2018, 11:49 AM Thread Starter
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All i have is replacement mirrors and baffle removal. Can't think of anything else i want to change. Seat is comfortable,handlebars fit me just fine. Runs so sweet i have no interest in a power commander etc. In the past i did personalize my bikes a lot. Ether this is one great bike or i am tired of spending money on them.

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post #2 of 14 Old 07-24-2018, 02:10 PM
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If I found a prestine '04+, I'd

nip the rear fended, a bit.
Baffelectomy
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Paint the stock mirrors Satin Black
Remove the passenger heel guards
Remove the reflectors, and warning stickers.

That would take 3-4 hours. Cost about $125. Done.

Lately, I've been buying used bikes. Sometimes, I spend nothing on mods. Most guys mod the crap out of their stuff. I've grown to really like the look of a showroom, stock machine, because they're so rare. Plus I watch a lot of "Jay Leon's Garage".

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I intend to make the 919 into a dedicated track bike some day. I have 2 pages of mods I'd like to do when I find the money. For now, its bone stock and it's gotten me into the advanced group. Next thing I'd probably do is rearsets and some serious track rubber. I'm practically the only person left in the class that still has a license plate on my bike and tires that are road legal. Maybe its time to get a new set of wheels to leave some slicks on.

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I intend to make the 919 into a dedicated track bike some day. I have 2 pages of mods I'd like to do when I find the money. For now, its bone stock and it's gotten me into the advanced group. Next thing I'd probably do is rearsets and some serious track rubber. I'm practically the only person left in the class that still has a license plate on my bike and tires that are road legal. Maybe its time to get a new set of wheels to leave some slicks on.
As someone who was seriously considering that path as well, you'd be much better off taking the money you'd spend on two pages of mods and just buy a clapped out track bike that will be far more capable from the start and less sad about when you inevitably go down.
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As someone who was seriously considering that path as well, you'd be much better off taking the money you'd spend on two pages of mods and just buy a clapped out track bike that will be far more capable from the start and less sad about when you inevitably go down.
It's also possible to find older, well built race bikes in good shape for crazy low $$$ in comparison to what the original build cost.
Particularly so if it was a build of a written off street bike with no frame damage in a jurisdiction where writeoffs can't legally be registered for road use.
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The problem that I wonder you may run into is: If you put Super grippy slicks on the 919, will the minimalist frame, swingarm, and suspention going to be able to handle the added stress? The tires you're running now, may have just enough slip to make everything balanced.

If things are going good, you're in the advanced group on a 919, why change anything?
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I ran out of tire trying to keep up with guys on better rubber and wiped out. They say good tires are cheap insurance

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I ran out of tire trying to keep up with guys on better rubber and wiped out. They say good tires are cheap insurance

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I seem to recollect a prior post of yours including which tires you are on.
Q3s?
Something else?
Anyway, sniper-x made really valid points.
If you beyond a good track day tire and into serious race rubber, then keep in mind that:
-warmers are pretty much obligatory.
-the tire performance will be substandard if you can't maintain heat in them by your riding to keep them in their temperature band.
-the tire performance and life is much more effected by settings, so if your settings are off, or you can't even get the necessary settings out of the suspension components you are using, the trick rubber won't be able to deliver.
Perhaps something like the new Dunlop Q4s would be a good solution if you are keeping the bike stock, they being streetable track day tires that don't need warmers.

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I made the assumption that you were already on good tires. I've never been on Racing Slicks. But I would have to assume that they have a lot mor grip than good Street tires. Slicks aren't any good until they're up to temperature. Then you need tire warmers. Then you need a power source for the tire warmers. Where does it end? I don't know you. I don't care what you do. Make yourself happy. But there will always be someone faster; Someone with more money to throw at what ever endeavor you partake.

Years ago, I shot in the Master Class, NRA Highpower Rifle competition. My rifle was a box stock Colt HBAR. Crummy trigger, sling attached to the barrel, plain old battle sights. I enjoyed beating up on a lot of guys that had much better equipment.
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Most likely q4 as they do not require warmers and still provide significantly more grip. Also not too expensive. I will probably stick with q3 for the time being though as I still have commute on my bike. The q3+ gets astounding mileage. I have 4k miles on them, 3k of that interstate and they are maybe 30% worn. I got roughly 7k out of my last rear with 2 track days on them. I think I can get close to 10k on the q3+. The center tread was beefed up. The sides are much softer compound and don't last very long though. I prefer the grip. For the amount of grip, mileage and price, they can't be beat imo. 210 bucks a set after the rebate.

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Most likely q4 as they do not require warmers and still provide significantly more grip. Also not too expensive. I will probably stick with q3 for the time being though as I still have commute on my bike. The q3+ gets astounding mileage. I have 4k miles on them, 3k of that interstate and they are maybe 30% worn. I got roughly 7k out of my last rear with 2 track days on them. I think I can get close to 10k on the q3+. The center tread was beefed up. The sides are much softer compound and don't last very long though. I prefer the grip. For the amount of grip, mileage and price, they can't be beat imo. 210 bucks a set after the rebate.

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A pair of Q3+s for $210 USA ?
That is stupid cheap for what they do !

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All i have is replacement mirrors and baffle removal. Can't think of anything else i want to change. Seat is comfortable,handlebars fit me just fine. Runs so sweet i have no interest in a power commander etc. In the past i did personalize my bikes a lot. Ether this is one great bike or i am tired of spending money on them.
I'm in the same boat...I used to mod my other bikes, but no interest in going crazy on my 919. Most of the stuff done to it is cosmetic or to make it more comfortable for long rides, or the PO (original owner) did it. Also I find the amount of money spent doesn't always give you the return you expect. Better to save your $$ for maintenance stuff.

You are right, its a damn fine bike in stock form, IMO.

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I love my 919 but i would never consider it a track bike. Anything is possible but their are many bikes that make better track bikes for little moere than good tires.

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You hardly ever get your money back from a mod, even some great ones like the rear shock, forks, PC III, etc...

I had mine up for sale about 2 years ago and one guy went down the list of all the mods he wanted done to it... He then offered a price and basically I would have been better of throwing the bike in the trash and walking away.

When you mod a bike, you're taking something that works and replacing it with something that works better or looks better. So if you replace the seat with a $300~400 seat, you're taking a working seat that is fine for most and making it a bit better, but you really aren't adding that much in value, even if someone can't buy that seat for 200 used.

It's just the way it works.


This fully ignores the fact that you get to ENJOY the mod. If you enjoy the new seat/shock/forks/etc... then THAT'S the whole point.


I fully intend on doing some suspension upgrades to mine when the time is right.

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