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post #1 of 20 Old 01-24-2018, 04:59 PM Thread Starter
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Michelin pilot power 2CT thoughts

Just bought a set of Michelin Pilot Power 2CT tires. Is anyone running them on thier 919?
My bike is stock and a daily sport / commuter bike. Any thoughts on this choice?
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I've had two sets on my 919, and loved them.
But, the last ones I rode on were from some years ago, so I don't know if today's 2CT is the same or not.
I'd suggest being careful on really cold pavement, especially in the wet, until they are warmed up a bit.
Also, seeing as the tire has been around for so many years, have a look at the date code info on the sidewall so you know when they were made.
Last, did you stay with the original sizes?

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Yes stuck with original factory size.
Didn't want to mess with that at ll

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Yes stuck with original factory size.
Didn't want to mess with that at all.

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I ran the rear @ 35 solo and 37/38 two up with my wife.
I liked the front @ 32 but they cup @ 32 if all the miles are road miles without lots of tire stress from turns and braking.
(Mine never got a chance to cup because of all the track day miles I was doing back then.)
36 is way too hard.
While I never did myself, it would be worthwhile to try 34.
I suggest you ask the shop about it.
It may be that there has been some design changes since my experience, and the cupping is no longer an issue.
Then again, if it's a typical shop, they'll hide behind the Honda recommendation which is an insane 36 F and 42 R, those numbers being absolutely nothing more than the required pressures for the tires to exhibit their rated load limit and nothing else but. No consideration of grip or ride at all.

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Great tire. I have ran them on many sport bikes in the standard, 2ct and 3ct versions. Great stability at full lean and long mileage characteristics in the 2ct and 3ct. As far as a cold tire goes- it does just fine in my opinion but I dont push it when its wet or cold out (risky with any tire). I run mine at 36 front, 38 rear. Im 220 before gear and have no problem touching my knee down.

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My favorite DOT Street Tire. I used them on most of my streetbikes and also when I am instructing on the track. Capable of A-Group pace with virtually no drama and they give zero shits if the asphalt is wet or not

32 F & 36R for commuting or twisties

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Thanks for the feedback. I feel more confident in my choice

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They are good, but take a little while to warm up. I've seen plenty of people wipe out with them on the track because they didn't get them up to temp first. Pressures play a big role in that as well.

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They are good, but take a little while to warm up. I've seen plenty of people wipe out with them on the track because they didn't get them up to temp first. Pressures play a big role in that as well.

Not if you run track pressures. They are probably the quickest warming tire I have ever used, we don't even use tire warmers with them which is why they are so popular with instructors. You don't have to waste time with warmers when you need to be hustling back to meet students in the classroom etc.
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I run 32.5 front, and 33.5 on back. I just ride back roads now days. Haven't been to the track for a few years.

I haven't gotten any misbehavior out of front, or back. Very stable in a corner. The profile of the rear stays round. After the first set, I was hooked.

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Just bought a set of Michelin Pilot Power 2CT tires. Is anyone running them on thier 919?
My bike is stock and a daily sport / commuter bike. Any thoughts on this choice?
Thanks
Depends what you mean by "sport" and what percentage is commuting vs sport. If sport is just spirited street riding, and/or you commute more often than you ride spirited, then the Michelin Pilot Road/ Road series is what you're looking for. Great in cold and rain, good for 95% of street riding, and really 100% of sane street riding, and can even handle the track at slower paces.

If you frequently ride spiritedly or plan to spend a fair amount of time at the track the Pilot Power is a good tire too.

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Surprised you still run these,
with new tires that have come out since their intro.

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My favorite DOT Street Tire. I used them on most of my streetbikes and also when I am instructing on the track. Capable of A-Group pace with virtually no drama and they give zero shits if the asphalt is wet or not

32 F & 36R for commuting or twisties

30/29 for track use.

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Surprised you still run these,
with new tires that have come out since their intro.

Just because they are new doesn't make them better. I actually prefer the original Pilot Power instead of the 2CT model, but they are starting to limit the sizes they make those in.

In back to back testing at BMP the original Pilot Power tires turned the exact same lap times as the 2CT version, but the 2CT wears out on the edges twice as fast.

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I remember you saying this years ago,
maybe I need to finally try a set.

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I actually prefer the original Pilot Power instead of the 2CT model

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Just because they are new doesn't make them better. I actually prefer the original Pilot Power instead of the 2CT model, but they are starting to limit the sizes they make those in.

In back to back testing at BMP the original Pilot Power tires turned the exact same lap times as the 2CT version, but the 2CT wears out on the edges twice as fast.

I found the 2CTs to get a bit greasy feeling on hot pavement days.
Still predictable, but greasy.

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I found the 2CTs to get a bit greasy feeling on hot pavement days.
Still predictable, but greasy.
Re track days that is.
Also, more noteable at the rear.

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The rear 2CT just needs lower pressure as it has a slightly stiffer sidewall. Makes it feel a little squirmy on hot days, but lower the pressure a bit and you won't even notice it.

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The rear 2CT just needs lower pressure as it has a slightly stiffer sidewall. Makes it feel a little squirmy on hot days, but lower the pressure a bit and you won't even notice it.
Thanks for that tidbit.

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Theys iz nice tirez. If you're doing long hauls, maybe consider a Pilot Road in the back. What are they now, road 5s? The combination is still a great match and you don't chew through rears too often.

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