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post #1 of 15 Old 06-28-2010, 07:26 PM Thread Starter
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Low speed balancing

I've been meaning to post this question up for awhile now. I have pretty good balance with the bike I think, but I've noticed some things lately. Like when I come to this one stop sign every day thats on an uphill incline, I never touch the ground.. whether I fully stop or not, I could probably roll backwards and feel fine. Conversely when I'm pulling to a stop on a downhill, im throwing my leg out much sooner.

I came to the conclusion it must have to do with how much weight im putting on the bars, and/or how much I'm using the front brake and compressing the suspension. But I'm just guessing.

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That's an interesting observation to make. I like to play a game against myself where I keep my feet up as long as possible without becoming unbalanced when coming to a stop. I'm not really sure why, there's no real point to it...it's just something I do. I guess that's probably not very relevant to what you're talking about, but so it goes!










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That's an interesting observation to make. I like to play a game against myself where I keep my feet up as long as possible without becoming unbalanced when coming to a stop. I'm not really sure why, there's no real point to it...it's just something I do.
I do the same thing, its a fun challenge, kinda like slow dragging.

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That's an interesting observation to make. I like to play a game against myself where I keep my feet up as long as possible without becoming unbalanced when coming to a stop. I'm not really sure why, there's no real point to it...it's just something I do. I guess that's probably not very relevant to what you're talking about, but so it goes!
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it may seem pointless,but it's a good balance exercise.it teaches muscle memory,the air marshalls practice drawing and firing blindfolded(seems pointless) to teach muscle memory.

dad got me doing the same thing,it can be fun. the cars behind you must be confused,or amazed

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I play the same game. as to the original post I would guess that your guess is correct. depending on what you do with your upper body there would be more weight on your handle bars, which usually seems to cause them to move more when at very low speeds for myself anyway.

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For real slow riding it is always good practice to use the rear brake as this stabilises the bike and makes it easier to control.

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Same deal, I keep my feet on the pegs and try to balance on the crank. In fact I cringe at the folks who have their feet down and dragging 30 feet before a stop.

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Or don't pick them back up for 30 feet after they're going again.

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I do the same, its actually amasing to see how long you can actually balance the bike at almost no speed.

When I leave to go home from work, I need to reverse the bike out of its space, I get both feet on the pegs going backwards, but as soon as I put some power on, I have to put a foot down to stabilise it going forward again.

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I always try to keep my feet up as long as possible, usually a few seconds after a full stop, riding a trials bike for a few years helps too.

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Farab, your 919 has REVERSE?? that's awesome! must be a NZ special mod...


only kidding, of course. I have had a few strange looks for not putting my feet down, but not a lot. Other motorcycle enthusiasts seem not to be very suprised by it, and cagers are just oblivious!

There is a 3-way stop just down the street from my house that the cops like to keep an eye on...easy tickets i suppose. Anyway, I commonly ride up, do a complete stop and then move on at that one. I can usually balance for between 3-15 seconds before I start to fall. it's all in good fun!









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Farab, your 919 has REVERSE?? that's awesome! must be a NZ special mod...


only kidding, of course. I have had a few strange looks for not putting my feet down, but not a lot. Other motorcycle enthusiasts seem not to be very suprised by it, and cagers are just oblivious!

There is a 3-way stop just down the street from my house that the cops like to keep an eye on...easy tickets i suppose. Anyway, I commonly ride up, do a complete stop and then move on at that one. I can usually balance for between 3-15 seconds before I start to fall. it's all in good fun!









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haha! I usually give a shove backwards and place feet on pegs.

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Farab, your 919 has REVERSE?? that's awesome! must be a NZ special mod...


only kidding, of course. I have had a few strange looks for not putting my feet down, but not a lot. Other motorcycle enthusiasts seem not to be very suprised by it, and cagers are just oblivious!

There is a 3-way stop just down the street from my house that the cops like to keep an eye on...easy tickets i suppose. Anyway, I commonly ride up, do a complete stop and then move on at that one. I can usually balance for between 3-15 seconds before I start to fall. it's all in good fun!
interesting dude... i was told by a local cop that while on a motorcycle, i had to put my foot down to indicate a complete stop or i could get ticketed for failure to stop. not sure what to make of it at the time so i just do that for stop signs where it appears likely a cop would ambush or when i know a cop is around. otherwise, i do the same as you described and it is a good exercise that helps in low speed manuverings. another game i like to do is try and drag out the stop as much as possible when approaching a light to try and time it so i dont have to put my feet down at all. you'd be surprised how much you can do to maintain your balance with very little forward motion.

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Or don't pick them back up for 30 feet after they're going again.
Yep, they sure bug me too, pick it up or loose it!

The foot down when you do a full stop thing is one of those rule I think they'll only enforce per local mood.

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I've been meaning to post this question up for awhile now. I have pretty good balance with the bike I think, but I've noticed some things lately. Like when I come to this one stop sign every day thats on an uphill incline, I never touch the ground.. whether I fully stop or not, I could probably roll backwards and feel fine. Conversely when I'm pulling to a stop on a downhill, im throwing my leg out much sooner.

I came to the conclusion it must have to do with how much weight im putting on the bars, and/or how much I'm using the front brake and compressing the suspension. But I'm just guessing.

You may also have yours eyes focused differently. My uphill stops are much smoother also: no front fork compression or wobble. Try focusing at a longer distance with your head up and eyes level with the horizon on the downhill.


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