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post #1 of 51 Old 05-28-2018, 03:57 PM Thread Starter
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I took a ride with a friend mostly 65-75 mph. when i got home i filled the tank and i got 50 mpg. did 125 miles and used 2 1/2 gallons of 87 fuel. My bike is stock and has few miles on it. I do not ride hard or change speeds a lot on the Fwy. In normal town ridding i average 42-45 mpg.

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Wow, I'm always in the low 30's but I don't do freeway very often. I'm 95% street with traffic and I'm a bit aggressive. I should do a long freeway trip some day just to see how she does.

Others report 40's, so I guess it can be done.

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I'm going to check mine as I'm now curious.
I'm only guessing but I think it's terrible. I've changed to very open/loud exhaust cans and changed the pc111usb map to suit, accelerator pump feature active. I never used to get the stink but now I do plus black stuff comes out the pipes. The bike is running great so I'm reluctant to change anything.
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My MPG when Iím riding alone tends to barely be over 30, maybe 30.5. When Iím riding backroads with a couple older guys that I ride with I get 40+. I have a -1/+2 sprocket arrangement, so when I ride on the interstate my mileage suffers greatly.

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In all fairness guys i think i am a exception . I got good millage from every bike i have owned. My last bike a 2007 SV650 got 55 mpg all the time.2003 Z1000 50+ also. I am very easey on the take off and slowing down. I was basically called a lair because on a kawa web site i posted that i get over 10,000 on a ZRX rear tire[ i did ]. I do not keep a bike a long time but i have never replaced a chain on any bike i owned.
One bike i did run hard was a 2005 Victory 8 ball. I bought it new and sold it with 7,000 HARD miles. many stop light races and maybe 5 trips to the drag strip. the rear tire was still usable. The key to millage, tire life is in everyday riding to just poke along.

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Ever drive one of those cars that show you your fuel consumption in a real time digital gauge? Nissans are common for this. Anyway, ever notice how your fuel consumption is the pits when you accelerate? And its super good when you are cruising at a comfortable speed with low RPMs?
Well its the same for a bike; accelerate slow, shift at low RPM and keep the RPM's low when cruising and you'll get excellent gas mileage. Only problem is, the fun factor gauge is low (in real time) when you drive like that.

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Ever drive one of those cars that show you your fuel consumption in a real time digital gauge? Nissans are common for this. Anyway, ever notice how your fuel consumption is the pits when you accelerate? And its super good when you are cruising at a comfortable speed with low RPMs?
Well its the same for a bike; accelerate slow, shift at low RPM and keep the RPM's low when cruising and you'll get excellent gas mileage. Only problem is, the fun factor gauge is low (in real time) when you drive like that.
true but it also cuts down on the speeding tickets

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In all fairness guys i think i am a exception . I got good millage from every bike i have owned. My last bike a 2007 SV650 got 55 mpg all the time.2003 Z1000 50+ also. I am very easey on the take off and slowing down. I was basically called a lair because on a kawa web site i posted that i get over 10,000 on a ZRX rear tire[ i did ]. I do not keep a bike a long time but i have never replaced a chain on any bike i owned.
One bike i did run hard was a 2005 Victory 8 ball. I bought it new and sold it with 7,000 HARD miles. many stop light races and maybe 5 trips to the drag strip. the rear tire was still usable. The key to millage, tire life is in everyday riding to just poke along.
It's a lot about how a person rides, but some cars/bikes are prone to a quick fall in the MPG. I had a Honda Prelude and she couldn't get < 25. Usually a modified car/truck will drop quickly when you get into it.

What bugs me is that a 100% stock bike should be from 30~45. maybe 36~45, but I see how my riding style would justify that big of a difference. Even being light on the gas didn't seem to help much, just seems like short city trips are the killer.

Either that or something's out of tune.

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post #9 of 51 Old 05-29-2018, 08:55 AM
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Stock '07 919 delivers 50+ mpg with moderate riding over 2-lane twisties. Speeds over these roads are generally 60 mph or below. I don't ride on freeways so I can't comment on high-speed long distance touring. However, the past couple of weeks have had temps of 85 and above and the bike is delivering 55 - 60 mpg for the same riding style. Of course, if I want economy, I can ride my CB500F which delivers 70 mpg and above.

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I was going to say, you don't ride a motorcycle for fuel economy...you ride it because its fun. If you happen to get good mileage when you ride your motorcycle, then its a bonus.
Lets be honest, if you wanted good gas mileage, ride a scooter.
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i barely get 180km to a tank... i ride like a stole it :P
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i barely get 180km to a tank... i ride like a stole it :P
And are you having fun?

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If you are concerned about MPG, get a mini bike. I have a Z125, flog it like a bitch that owes me money and I STILL get 95MPG.
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the new honda 125cc neo cafe thing... Looks the best among the small bikes :P

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If you are concerned about MPG, get a mini bike. I have a Z125, flog it like a bitch that owes me money and I STILL get 95MPG.

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post #15 of 51 Old 05-29-2018, 01:44 PM
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I agree that you don't ride a 900cc naked bike for fuel economy. Still it's nice to know that I can ride a long, long time without worrying about running out of fuel. If, for example, I ride with my son and a couple of his friends, they're running on the fuel light after 100 miles and I've only burned up a couple of gallons. And I had 5 gallons to start and they only had 3.5 gallons. Ha!

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I ride it hard and I ride it for fun, I love hitting it hard out of tight corners.
Otherwise I take the Subaru.

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I'm not sure my riding is that much more aggressive that many others, but it's odd to me that someone says he's getting 50MPG non-freeway twisties and I'm close to 1/2 that with a bone stock bike.

How can the same bike get 50+MPG and 30 MPG? Something's not right. I do several min warm up every time I ride, but that can't add up to much. I don't even rev close to the red, I'm in the lower 1/2.

I don't usually get over 100 on a tank and that's about 3.5gal.

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Well, you have to look at some of the other factors that affect fuel mileage.


First there's the bike stuff...

Tire pressure
Wheel bearing condition
Chain tension/Chain condition - Affects rear wheel free spin

Brakes - How well do both the front and rear wheel spin. Maybe time to rebuild the calipers?
Idle speed
Dirty air filter?
Are the intakes sync'd?
Power Commander?
other aftermarket parts?



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Rider height - Size affects aerodynamics

Rider weight
Rider style - To me this is a big one. How you use the throttle is a biggy. There's the acceleration part and when you shift part. But do you blip the throttle on down shifts? Or while waiting at lights?

Do you do the twisties in a low gear with the revs high? or do you use a higher gear with the revs low?


I know I've missed others...but SO many factors.
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I ride on the very conservative side, i shift gears as soon as possible. Seldom do it wring it out threw the gears. I hold steady speeds when possible. Being a mechanic i do not like to stress my equipment for no reason. Hard riding shortens the life of tires, brakes, chains for sure.

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My 919 used to get about 38mpg on the freeway and roughly 30mpg in the twisties. I was definitely having fun on both.


I might have gotten closer to about 45mpg when it was bone stock, but the Powercommander mapping made the throttle response so much better than I found myself playing with the bike way more once it was fueling properly. It's hard not to twist it more when it feels like the throttle bodies are literally connected to your wrist and of course mileage suffers for it. I think my RC51 gets about 18mpg, the ZX10 not much better than that at near race pace and the F4i gets around 40-42 on the street which is ironically better mileage with the powercommander tuned than it got when bone stock...
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Well, you have to look at some of the other factors that affect fuel mileage.


First there's the bike stuff...

Tire pressure
Wheel bearing condition
Chain tension/Chain condition - Affects rear wheel free spin

Brakes - How well do both the front and rear wheel spin. Maybe time to rebuild the calipers?
Idle speed
Dirty air filter?
Are the intakes sync'd?
Power Commander?
other aftermarket parts?



Rider Stuff...
Rider height - Size affects aerodynamics

Rider weight
Rider style - To me this is a big one. How you use the throttle is a biggy. There's the acceleration part and when you shift part. But do you blip the throttle on down shifts? Or while waiting at lights?

Do you do the twisties in a low gear with the revs high? or do you use a higher gear with the revs low?


I know I've missed others...but SO many factors.
Some of these things are hard to gauge. I push my bike out when I ride, so IDK how hard it should be to push. It spins pretty free when on the stands.

The tire pressure is at stock speck, some 36 or whatever it is.


The staggering thing is that a bone stock bike could drop so much in MPG. To go from 50+ to 30 is almost like you have to have some damage.

I get that some designs will drop quickly as you have to really baby it to get any real mpg out of it. I have a truck like that, she'll suck the gas like crazy if I'm not very easy on it.

But it's very far from stock.

I guess it might be a good idea to give it a full checkup. I've never sync'd the TBs or checked the valve clearance.

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I ride on the very conservative side, i shift gears as soon as possible. Seldom do it wring it out threw the gears. I hold steady speeds when possible. Being a mechanic i do not like to stress my equipment for no reason. Hard riding shortens the life of tires, brakes, chains for sure.
What fun is that? It's like not banging your girlfriend (or boyfriend... I don't judge) because you want to keep her tight for the next guy....
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What fun is that? It's like not banging your girlfriend (or boyfriend... I don't judge) because you want to keep her tight for the next guy....

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What fun is that? It's like not banging your girlfriend (or boyfriend... I don't judge) because you want to keep her tight for the next guy....
OMG, that's BRUTAL!

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What fun is that? It's like not banging your girlfriend (or boyfriend... I don't judge) because you want to keep her tight for the next guy....
No, it's not that at all.

It's more like banging her [or him, I agree] in such a way as to be sure you're going to be able to bang her again next time...coz YOU KNOW you're going to want there to be a next time.

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No, it's not that at all.

It's more like banging her [or him, I agree] in such a way as to be sure you're going to be able to bang her again next time...coz YOU KNOW you're going to want there to be a next time.
IDK, Honda take a beating and keep on going. I beat on my 700S and it held up great, those Honda people know how to build a machine.

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No, it's not that at all.

It's more like banging her [or him, I agree] in such a way as to be sure you're going to be able to bang her again next time...coz YOU KNOW you're going to want there to be a next time.
My bike knows the safeword. I don't, but that's not really the point. A safeword and a helmet make for good, repeatable, times.
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My fun is doing a Fwy on ramp to maybe 110 if nobody is around,or a nice Mountain road at a safe but fun speed. In my area we have a Mountain road called Glendora Mountain Road [ GMR ] . It is one of the best rides you can ever take on a motorcycle,a little bit of everything. The only bad part is just enough stupid people crossing the dbl line or turning into a turn out right in front of you.Otherwise most of my riding is speed limit cruising along.

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@notabiker I was just busting balls. Different strokes for different folks.



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@Islandboy. It's healing up well. I'm just waiting to see if the nerve endings grow back. 6 months later and I still have tingling sensations in my finger tip... Hoping that goes away. But it looks alright... just looks a little stubby. Coworker said it just looks like a small birth defect.






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Iíd never buy a bike for gas mileage but Iím impressed, this thing seems more frugal than my SV650 was. My light turns on at 150-170 miles, and Iíll always have 1 gallon left of capacity according to what itís showing that Iím putting in.

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My thumb wasn’t nearly that bad, shoved a Phillips head drill driver bit through it. Almost 2 years later I can feel more than just a pain sensation.
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Could've been worse crakerjac!
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I got a big fish spine jabbed into my left index finger several years ago and the end of my finger from the last joint was completely paralyzed. I couldn't work it or feel it, it was floppy and hanging down. Had a weird tingle too. Slowly over about 4yrs I got control again and feeling back. All normal now. I think some nerves can grow back in time.

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Thanks @Islandboy. It could have been way worse. I'm just glad shock kicked in and I had the presence of mind to go pick up my finger tip before driving myself to urgent care. If I hadn't gone back for the end of my finger, they wouldn't have been able to save that little bit of finger nail making it passable as normal.

My step dad cut off his middle finger while butchering chickens when I was a kid. He ended up getting gang green and they had to go back and cut more of his finger off... and had to start the healing process all over again. Considering myself lucky that didn't happen.



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I ran a saw thru my thumb while roofing and it went in about a 1/4~3/8". Ended up growing back normal. Can hardly tell. There was a "dead spot" for a while, now all is good.

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