+1 on the 3's. I run a Pilot Power 2CT in the front and the Road 3 on the rear. I love it. I did 2 sets of Conti Road Attacks and hated the way they wore down the middle. Pilot Roads are where it's at.
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i want more than 3000 outta my tires i got quite a bit out of my pilot 2's the front went forever a day i went through a lot of rears though. I have a 112 mile round trip to work an if there isn't ice on the road the bike is my commuter.
i'm going own to cycle gear to check them both out tomorrow or Saturday.
wondering if any one has had experience on both.
Common sense. So rare it's a god damn super power.
well we cheated a little last night and searched for the most tread left on the tire an use the roa hazard warranty on the rear the front should last one more rear. apparently i don't go through many soft corners the tread right at the edge of the harder compound was almost untouched for a few millimeters. got my tire for 116 plus new warranty fee.
See what sittin around and bull shitten with people gets you.
Common sense. So rare it's a god damn super power.
I have a fear of running Dunlops personally because both sets of Dunlops I've had were absolutely shitty tires ... no other way to say it ... bad life, horrible wet grip, and not very good dry grip either ... I've got a two pairs of PR2's for both of my bikes ... I've ridden on Michelins, pirellis, bridgestones, and those two pairs of Dunlops ... The bridgestone BT023's and the PR2's which are very similar tires in all aspects except price (bridgestone is a lil cheaper around here) ... The pilot road 2's would be my absolute first choice hands down for riding on the road ... Hell the PR2's on my 600 have almost 14,000 miles on them (they've been up and down the dragon several times, and i rode on my 600 with those tires ALL the way from louisiana to the dragon and back) ... track riding, the michelin pilot power ... and the one's on my 954 give me excellent grip to deal with and also live alot longer than any pure sticky tire out there ...
... Never take life too seriously ... Nobody gets out alive anyway ...
Q2's will not give you more than 3k. There's that trade off of grip vs longevity.
From what I've read, the BT16's won't get you much further than Q2's. I've only had experience with Q2's, however, and will be using these again (not on my 919).
The PR2's are just fine with the 919. We'll see how long they last, I've hit 2k on them.
it really depends on your roads(curves vs. slabs) nj doesn't have many twistys. i've got over 3000 mi. on mine and i'll bet i'll get at least 6000+ they're just starting to square on the rear.
personally i luv'em quick warm up and decent wear.
but like i said i drive 80% slabs/country roads. fwiw.
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ya know..... what HASN't been discussed in this thread is Tire PSI's. You always hear people saying..... this tire lasted this long, or this tire only lasted for 2,000 miles. You never see people say ---- I only got 2,000 miles out of my BT-16 while running 32 PSI front/rear.
If you're running the BT-16's on the street.....and running them at 30-32 Track type PSI's. You're going to get ALOT less mileage than you would if you ran them in the upper 30's --- like 38 front, 40 rear. Compared to maybe 32 front & 34 rear. This goes without saying....if you ride twisties hard and aren't checking your tires at every stop, its very possible your tires aren't getting up to temp and you're putting yourself at risk. It also makes me cringe when riding behind someone who just chucks it into the first corner without building up to full lean over the course of a couple corners.
Personally, I'm VERY anal about this kind of stuff....... I'll actually air up my tires for the trip to the twisties (if its over a hour ride or so......) ---- then air them down for optimal stickiness once I get to the good stuff.
Frankly, I want my tires to be ready for anything that gets thrown their way without having to play with pressures, so I run my PR2's at 26 to 29 front and 28 to 31 rear all the time.. At those pressures and a combination of Malibu twisties and 100 mile a day commute they lasted 10,000 miles rear and over 12,000 miles front. That's a low average.
Given the Michelin's no warmup, excellent manners, unequalled wet traction (well, exclusive of racing full wets which would last all of 5 miles in the dry), and longevity, they will be my tires of choice for the foreseeable future.
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------- Rob --------
As an FYI, I replaced my 016's with a set of "regular" Pilot Powers.
I had good luck ( and longevity ) with them on my '05 ZX10R, I figured they had to last at least as long as the 016's on the 919.
Plus, they're cheaper (!).
I agree with Rob - knock a few PSI out of your tires ... even for street riding.
There's no way I'll ever see 10k miles out of a tire -- but I want that extra footprint, cushion and heat that a fewer PSI will gimme.