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post #1 of 34 Old 11-16-2010, 09:56 PM Thread Starter
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Any tips on a Stebel install?

Got the Stebel's today for the ZX10 and the Hawk. Any do's or donts with these things? The directions give you a grounded horn button and a powered horn button wiring diagram and a maximum tilt for and aft degree #. Other than that anything else to be concerned with?

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Pretty straight forward, I try to steer clear of direct heat. one guy on here seperated the compressor from the horn. Put the comp under the seat and ran a hose to the horn up front. seemed like a smart idea if you wanna go through it.

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Clarification...More concerned I guess with the mounting angles..The install on the wing was pretty easy with a lot of room to mount dead nuts vertical. Looks like I'm going to have to get creative with the Ninja though.

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yeah not alot of room, are you gonna use the the stock wiring? I did some reading and it was sayin the horn may not get enough juice from the stock wiring and wont work to full potential, has me thinkin about a rewire when i redo it?

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The horns will get their juice directly from the battery via a relay. The horn button will trigger the relay instead of the "meep meep" horn which will send the juice to the Stebel. I'm under the understanding that these horns will draw almost 20a which would probably damage the wiring if the relay wasnt used.

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Ahhhh that may explain why I was dissapointed in mine? Lol I got a tip in your thread from you.

Looks like I need to redo it right.

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why do they have to be mounted a certian direction... will the pump get messed up if you mount it non vertical?

Or is it for noise direction?

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Ahhhh that may explain why I was dissapointed in mine? Lol I got a tip in your thread from you.

Looks like I need to redo it right.
Cool! Yep,Gotta get the the power to the horn from the battery. I'm kinda surprised you didnt pop a fuse. You'll be pretty happy with it after its getting a good supply of juice. The Steb on the Wing is an attention getter for sure.

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why do they have to be mounted a certian direction... will the pump get messed up if you mount it non vertical?

Or is it for noise direction?
Not quite sure...They give a maximum angle for tilt forward/backward - side/side but they dont say what the dilema would be if there directions are not followed.

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why do they have to be mounted a certian direction... will the pump get messed up if you mount it non vertical?

Or is it for noise direction?
IMO it is to ensure they do not fill up with water or in the even some water gets in there it can drain out. Imagine if they are mounted pointing up and get wet - insert a sound like someone yelling under water!


I've the model without the compressor - it is a plug and play job - no relay required. Still bloody loud just not quite as much as the flasher model.

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why do they have to be mounted a certian direction... will the pump get messed up if you mount it non vertical?

Or is it for noise direction?
it is most likely mounted that way so it doesnt get debris in it. i owned a car that i was constantly ripping apart the horn to clean due to debris getting in it. it was due to the position of it. you dont want your bad ass horn to sound like a sick pathetic horn do you?

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the reason why i ask is cus i wouldnt mind separating the pump and putting it under the seat so the horn wasnt so big.

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Here are some pics of mine and one of the relay (the red one) under the seat.
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That looks like a tip right there,paint it black then install.

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ideajones & rmb, aren't you better off turning it around - more protection from scooping in water.

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ideajones & rmb, aren't you better off turning it around - more protection from scooping in water.
I thought about that, the bracket that would require would get complicated, I try not to ride in the rain though. It probably wouldn't make much difference as to the sound but I LOVE the reaction I get when I let it loose facing front, people dance....

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I had mine mounted at a 90 pointed at the slow lane but changed it so it didn't stick out so much. I don't ride in the rain intentionally, I am more concerned about bugs,birds and small animals.

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I'm going to mount one of these puppies...

I should at least put one on my wife's truck. It already has an air compressor on it. hhhhhhmmmmmmmmm

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That's some funny shit right there... I think I might kick someone's car if they did it to me for no reason though...

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I thought about that, the bracket that would require would get complicated, I try not to ride in the rain though. It probably wouldn't make much difference as to the sound but I LOVE the reaction I get when I let it loose facing front, people dance....
I just don't like riding in front of him when he hits it

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Here are some pics of mine and one of the relay (the red one) under the seat.
What's up with that little mud flap dealio on the front fender?

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I believe it's a "Fenda Extenda"

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Why yes it is.... I thought I'd try to keep some crap off of the header and engine, it seems to work and will more than likely help keep some spray down when I get caught in the rain.

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Why yes it is.... I thought I'd try to keep some crap off of the header and engine, it seems to work and will more than likely help keep some spray down when I get caught in the rain.
RMB could you post up a better pic of the extenda. It looks alright from the side, I might try one of those myself

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i mounted mine the same as the above pictures.
I have been running it in all conditions for 3 years now and it is still going strong.
My original concern was junk and water, but it has proved reliable.
last month i went through a 1ft deep causeway at speed (didnt see it until it was too late) that would have flooded it for sure, still no probs.
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What's up with that little mud flap dealio on the front fender?
I've a fender extender on mine too - brilliant idea as it keeps a lot of road grime and stones etc off the front of the engine and headers.

Stupid factory guards following stupid sport fashions.

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RMB could you post up a better pic of the extenda. It looks alright from the side, I might try one of those myself
Here's a better pic.
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Here's a better pic.


Thanks RMB, Im gonna have to add one of those to the winter projects.

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Thanks RMB, Im gonna have to add one of those to the winter projects.
You're welcome, only $42.00, not too bad for the extra protection.

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Do you think a butt-load of silicone sealant clamped until cured might suffice for the pop rivets? I like everything about it except the holes in the stock fender.

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I wasn't crazy about the 4 screws either, I found another fender so I have a clean OEM painted fender for the future. Not sure how the silicone would hold up long term, it might be beter to try epoxy or JB Weld.

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I wasn't crazy about the 4 screws either, I found another fender so I have a clean OEM painted fender for the future. Not sure how the silicone would hold up long term, it might be beter to try epoxy or JB Weld.
I'm sure some type of epoxy would hold better but where possible, I like to do mods so they are reversible to pure stock.

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