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post #1 of 19 Old 06-09-2010, 05:35 AM Thread Starter
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Another observation/question

When you enter Michigan or any other helmet state and your state does not require one, can you be ticketed for no helmet? I mean there's a sign that seatbelts are required but no mention of helmets. Always wondered about this.

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I'm going to go with "yes" because it's your responsibility to know and obey local traffic laws, but that's just my best guess.

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I'm sure you would be ticketed and it would stand up in court. It is an interesting question though, because some motor vehicle laws seem to be enforceable between states and some don't. For example, in PA we don't have a front license plate and window tinting is legal - and I don't think you will be pulled over in NJ where they require a front/rear plate and very limited window tinting is allowed. But having that PA plate won't stop you from getting a cell phone while driving ticket or no helmet on a cycle ticket...

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It is illegal here in Kentucky to have a muffler (stock or not) on your motorcycle that emits more sound than a factory provided option. However, about 75% of all the bikes I see around here have super loud exhausts on them...mine included.

My personal opinion is if it is legal in the state where you reside/have your vehicle registered, it is the burden of the law enforcement, to know your local laws for different states, or at least bordering states.

My reasoning is this...My vehicles are registered in KY and 90% of the mileage on them comes from driving in KY. I pay KY for my taxes, registrations, and fees. My vehicles are all (mostly) legal in the state which I do my business, Kentucky. Crossing a state line should not instantly make my vehicle illegal or not. I will not remove window tint when I cross into Indiana and I cannot magically produce a duplicate license plate for the front of my truck if I drive through New Jersey.

I'm sure most law enforcement understands the basics of what is and is not reasonable, but like you, Rich Jura, I have wondered.

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yes, you can get a ticket. I heard a story from someone that they were going to stop at the first town in the next state to get gas, and put their helmets on since they were entering a helmet required state. they got pulled over just across the border and ticketed a couple miles before stopping for gas.

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It may be your duty to know the law...........but that's in the state where you got your drivers license. The fact that helmets are required is not posted at the state line, also why have a helmet when your state does not require one. If word gets out Granholm may set up stands selling cheap helmets at Suomy
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P.S. Always wear one, can't believe as a youngster I didn't when them BIG BUGS smack it I thank God I'm wearing it.

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Better put your lid on before you cross any of the 13 bridges from Pa to NJ. You will get a summons if you don't.

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Yes and you have to obey that state's speed limits too. Or so they told me. They didn't buy it when I said "Heck where I'm from they let me do 110 all the time".

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But the speed limits are all posted along with seat belt use, there is no mention of helmets.

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that may provide little to no insight but took 5 seconds to find, maybe they expect us to research it on our own? i dunno. prob. just another way to get our money

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why not just were your helmet
they save lives you know
I mean how much is your head worth

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Weird but true: you have to wear a helmet in California. You also have to wear one in Nevada. I went to Cabella's the other day (across the border in Nevada) and they had a huge DOT sign over the highway proclaiming to everyone speed limits are enforced and motorcyclists must wear helmets. I wondered how a motorcyclist would get to the sign without one, or maybe people just assume they can take them off once they leave CA, I guess they just bunjie cord them to the tail.

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Thanks for the chart, 3D.. I've always wondered about duty to know the law. How can a person know all laws in every state plus the federal ones?
Do lawyers even know? I could be breaking one right now.

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This should be a mute point just were a helmet. Even Squids were helmets.

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Nice chart - I never realized that so few states actually have "all riders" helmet laws - only 20.

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I do wear one at all times, even in the tub. Just wondering the legalities of making you do something not required by your state. Illinois can't make me install a front plate on my car.

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I do wear one at all times, even in the tub. Just wondering the legalities of making you do something not required by your state. Illinois can't make me install a front plate on my car.

Rich
I believe (could be completely wrong though) that registration type laws do not need to be abided in other states as long as your vehicle complies with where it is currently registered, such as only having one plate versus two that some states require. but laws regarding what a person actually does need to be followed in accordance with each individual state that you are traveling through, such as seat belts and helmets.

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