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post #1 of 50 Old 12-11-2007, 06:30 AM Thread Starter
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I came on here this morning to talk about someone I would like to be able to call "Friend", and to talk about the hardships those amongst us face. I was thinking about Kahuna and the family he left behind and then I also got to see the youtube vid from Ruben. It all just brings things home at times.

My main reason for this post is to offer my thoughts and prayers to another member who has had what I can only call life changing events occur. I will not name the member or even allude to the events in questions. All I can say is that talking with the member yesterday ended up giving ME more courage to face the challenges of life. It is true that no matter what problems we face - someone else is facing something bigger. That being said, it never hits home as hard as when you actually know someone truly going through it. It trivializes what you might be experiencing sometimes.

If this member is reading this, I just want to say thank you for a candid conversation and I will keep you and your's in my thoughts and prayers and use your story to inspire me to keep going as well. A lot of what we have and can do is often taken for granted. It is amazing how many of us in this world are limited - not neccesarily by economics or geography, but by things way out of our control.

I remember bitching once to a friend - now dead - about how my ride this particular morning sucked. Wonie looked at me with a sly grin and reminded me that only about 8% of the world's population knew how to ride a bike, let alone be able to ride it at high performance on a track. In other words - get over it.

Again, to the member I spoke with yesterday, I hope it is okay to call you "friend", and I wish you and your's all the best through this ordeal. Additionally to ALL W/T members - your support as a group truly is understated with words. To all who are going through things, I wish you all the possible best and whether I know you personally or not, whether you have voiced any issues or not - you are in one way or the other in my thoughts and prayers. You are all "Friends" in my book.

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This has been the absolute worst year of my life (long story). I can't wait for it to end, hoping that '08 can only get better.

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All that for a messily 5 greenbacks to go play in the casino?... Pffft!!!



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This has been the absolute worst year of my life (long story). I can't wait for it to end, hoping that '08 can only get better.
don't even get me started on this fiasco of a year... I am really looking forward to the next already!

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This is going to sound so cliche. But, when things seem like they can't get any worse, some things do get better.

Trust me on this ... the last year has been insane for me. Somethings right now are incredible, but other things still suck.

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This has been the absolute worst year of my life (long story). I can't wait for it to end, hoping that '08 can only get better.

+1, gimme a call this w/e brother. I'll find a way to cheer ya up




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post #11 of 50 Old 12-12-2007, 05:37 AM
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Guys - I would love to post details of what inspired this post, but I truly feel I would breach the trust of this particular member. I was not explicitly asked to keep anything in confidence, I just do it out of respect, so please bear with me.

There are members on here that are fully aware of some hardships I myself endured - and they too have chosen to not speak openly about it and I appreciate them for that. And..... there are other members that post on here that you would be amazed at the amount of hardship, loss and duress that they are shouldering and yet you do not hear the entire story and I admire them for that.

I think this was just about appreciate the fact that in this crazy world - where politicians go to office on "our" behalf with their own agendas, where Sesame street is now viewed as evil, where Muslims want to lynch a teacher for calling a Teddy bear a name in innocence, where we go to war and sacrifice innocent lifes, where Santa can no longer say "Ho Ho Ho" because some silly PC person thinks it is rude, etc - I can still say I belong to a larger group of somewhat sane, great people who make life seem worthwhile.

Thanks Guys!

PS: Be warned, if you try to hug me or some BS like RC90 would do, I will break every bone in your body!

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PS: Be warned, if you try to hug me or some BS like RC90 would do, I will break every bone in your body!

I don't wanna hear what you did with RC90's bone!




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Speaking of hugs! Oh; never mind!

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i'm just gonna send some Big Love out in a general direction...

i know some folks just hit these boards for bike specific info, to my way of thinking, such folks are missing out. i've gain untold friends, acquaintences and experiences through 2-wheeled adventures initiated by Internet/Forum contacts...

it's a matter of choice, you can stay w/ the old 'it's just a stoopid Internet board' or you can roll the dice, go out, meet people and have all kinds of experiences (and no i'm not referring to the gay bar story <g> )...things you would never have imagined or people you never though you'd meet...and i'm here to tell you, people are the only thing that matter in this life and knowing some good ones is what it's all about

cheers to ya
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or you can roll the dice, go out, meet people and have all kinds of experiences
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I can hardly wait for Spring when I get to ride with some of you! I'll be the one trying to keep up...but I'll still have a blast!

Here's hoping for good vibes and guardian angels for all of us on the two-wheel path. He's way over-quoted (it's ok; when you're that good, it's inevitable), but Frost said it best--the road less travelled makes all the difference.

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PS: Be warned, if you try to hug me or some BS like RC90 would do, I will break every bone in your body!
Ah C'mon, you know you're just a big Teddy Bear, hence, why crazy eyes kept you for a while... 'til she found out that the part about never going back was not true!

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....and i'm here to tell you, people & motorcycles are the only thing that matter in this life and knowing some good ones is what it's all about

cheers to ya
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Hope all is well. Thank you all for being here with me.

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This has been the absolute worst year of my life (long story). I can't wait for it to end, hoping that '08 can only get better.
+2 on that.

Divorced (actually, still divorcing) my wife. Lost 2 former riding buddies (1 was a good friend or so I thought) when I found out they had both slept with her. Hell, she's now dating one of them! Then, had 2 nightmare experiences with roomates in my attempt to reduce household expenses to pay off marital bills. Have my house back to myself now and not going down that road again. Thank God I still have the 919 or I would probably be in jail by now!

Sorry to grab the microphone here but after seeing the nature of this thread I felt the need to sound off. As some of you know, I used to be a regular participant here and am well aware of the high quality of people on WT. That's why I haven't just completely signed-off. I've been lurking and jumping in now and then. I have been in a very dark, depressed hole since about the end of May. It's taken me several months to shake off most of the hurt and anger from the above experiences.

Realize there's probably no need to reveal what I have above but, like I said, the nature of this thread inspired me. I have missed talking with several of you guys and I know it's my own doing because of the funk I've been in.

Thanks for listening and please know that I'm almost up the other side of the dark canyon.

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Good to have you back RB, and believe me - without going into a long story, I can empathize with your situation.

Believe me when I say this board is like an extended family. So, hang in there brother - glad to know you are on the come back road.

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Very sorry to hear that! There is a "special" place in h3ll for ex-friends that take the ultimate advantage! Hang in their RB, we are here for you! Sweep all the negative baggage out the door (ink the deal) and start fresh in 08'!

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Hey Dave, I know you had said awhile back you were in the midst of the divorce. PM me if you want to chat.


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I have been in a very dark, depressed hole since about the end of May. It's taken me several months to shake off most of the hurt and anger from the above experiences.

Thanks for listening and please know that I'm almost up the other side of the dark canyon.

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Hang in there! Sounds like the worst of it is over.
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I, through hard times, have learned to look at life as I do hunting and fishing. Hunting/Fishing would not be as fun if every time you went out you bagged the biggest and it was that simple.

It’s the hard times in life that make you appreciate the good times and that make the good times that much better.

Also, it teaches to control the things you can and avoid those things that bring hard times and accept the things you can’t control and learn to deal with them. I can keep myself from being arrested for murder by not going out and killing someone, but I cant keep my loved ones out of the way of an inadvertent drunk driver...

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+2 on that.

Divorced (actually, still divorcing) my wife. Lost 2 former riding buddies (1 was a good friend or so I thought) when I found out they had both slept with her. Hell, she's now dating one of them! Then, had 2 nightmare experiences with roomates in my attempt to reduce household expenses to pay off marital bills. Have my house back to myself now and not going down that road again. Thank God I still have the 919 or I would probably be in jail by now!
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Razorbike bad things always pass, I had a similar experience with my ex-wife, I learned some valuable lessons there that I would not trade for anything.Biggest lesson for me was not to be concerned by setbacks but to view them as an oppurtunity for positive change , as to the karma thing judging by my ex-wifes experience karma definitely is a bitch, But great group of people here stay motivated and I wish anybody having problems the best.

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The best revenge is living well!

RB - get up over that mountain and stay on the top for awhile. Make some good choices... sounds like you are already... and get back to good times. What lifes all about.

Never go back.... dont ever go back!

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Don't know exactly what to say other than THANKS to all of you!

HondaStreetfigh - I have struggled with the option of kicking the $hit out of said individuals and teaching them a lesson. Never ends up with a positive result. Something always reminds me that the wheel of Karma is a bitch when you use it in a negative way.

Boston919er - I have learned some hard lessons about the type of people to avoid counting on as true friends.

WIM - Thanks again for starting this thread and the encouragement - it is a wake up call!

dadogs - I'll be in touch soon.

tbone - thanks for the honesty of a similar experience

Strange how she showed up here last Friday night crying about how her new "so called friends" just wanted to get in her pants. I was at a loss! Hmmm...what to do? After much discussion, the divorce is definitely still on.

My answer - Couldn't bring myself to rub it in her face although I wanted to. Agreed to help provide a good Christmas for her 2 nephews that spent a lot of time here in my house while we were together (great little guys, crappy parents).

Part of me feels like an idiot for being willing to help her - the other part feels like I'm following the WWJD rule.

Kindness always wins out in my mind. That's the only way I can end up feeling good about myself. Have a magnet on my fridge (damn - of all things to compare to!). It says "The greatness of a man can be measured in his willingness to be kind". Can't remember where it came from but it's strange how inspiration comes from the the most unexpected places!

Thanks again ya'll for the support - I had tears in my eyes after reading the responses. This is definitely an extended family (Lord knows my hometown family has heard it all!)

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RB,

Keep hanging tough! While she's in that beautiful holiday mood ink the deal BEFORE celebrating xmas with her family. Otherwise you risk she will change terms. Sure hope it all is resolved without lawyers and the net is positive.

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Keep hanging tough! While she's in that beautiful holiday mood ink the deal BEFORE celebrating xmas with her family. Otherwise you risk she will change terms. Sure hope it all is resolved without lawyers and the net is positive.
Thanks Dream. Just to clarify - I'm not going to be celebrating Christmas with her family. She has no family here other than her "less than zero" sister (Mom of her 2 nephews) and they don't get along very well. Fully aware of the possibility of her changing terms of the divorce. So far, she has not flip-flopped. Not going to allow myself to be "played".

Finalizing the divorce is kind of my unusual birthday and Christmas present to myself.

Thanks again for the support - I need all I can get!

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HondaStreetfigh - I have struggled with the option of kicking the $hit out of said individuals and teaching them a lesson. Never ends up with a positive result. Something always reminds me that the wheel of Karma is a bitch when you use it in a negative way.

Strange how she showed up here last Friday night crying about how her new "so called friends" just wanted to get in her pants. I was at a loss! Hmmm...what to do? After much discussion, the divorce is definitely still on.

My answer - Couldn't bring myself to rub it in her face although I wanted to. Agreed to help provide a good Christmas for her 2 nephews that spent a lot of time here in my house while we were together (great little guys, crappy parents).

Part of me feels like an idiot for being willing to help her - the other part feels like I'm following the WWJD rule.

Kindness always wins out in my mind. That's the only way I can end up feeling good about myself. Have a magnet on my fridge (damn - of all things to compare to!). It says "The greatness of a man can be measured in his willingness to be kind". Can't remember where it came from but it's strange how inspiration comes from the the most unexpected places!
Razor, you are exactly right. You will get much more satisfaction from not harming those which have harmed you. It has nothing to do with Karma. Beating the crap out of those dirt bags will never give you an ounce of satisfaction and will probably make you feel worse. You get to continue your life knowing you are a saint and those individuals have to live the rest of their lives knowing they are scum.



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In a situation like this don't even think of hurting anyone, not that they don't deserve it...

Stupid is it's own punishment. Things will take care of themselves. Just stand back and let life take it's course. I could go on and on, but I won't.

Very seldom do I even think about things like this anymore. I'm too busy having fun!

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+2 on that.

Divorced (actually, still divorcing) my wife. Lost 2 former riding buddies (1 was a good friend or so I thought) when I found out they had both slept with her. Hell, she's now dating one of them! Then, had 2 nightmare experiences with roomates in my attempt to reduce household expenses to pay off marital bills. Have my house back to myself now and not going down that road again. Thank God I still have the 919 or I would probably be in jail by now!

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Realize there's probably no need to reveal what I have above but, like I said, the nature of this thread inspired me. I have missed talking with several of you guys and I know it's my own doing because of the funk I've been in.

Thanks for listening and please know that I'm almost up the other side of the dark canyon.

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along the same line, except I lost house, but got the dog.
...lost a good riding buddy too, which should not have happened.

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Brian: I hope someday you and your x riding buddy patch up your differences.

As some of you know razorbike is the graphic designer of our 'hairy the hornet' decal. He is one good person who did not deserve this shiet. Dave: You have my phone #, I'm always here to lend a ear.

To both of you guys, look forward to 2008, it going to be a upbeat year.

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I think you're all a bunch of wackos in need of serious psychological help and heavy medication...





Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a knight's errand to run. Some heavy debate has started about the difference in an African swallow and a European swallow.

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That really sucks razor. It sounds like she's may try to get back with you now that her fling isn't working out. Don't do it! No matter what! She proved she can cross the line and she'll do it again. They want what they can't have so she may try to get you again. Stick to your guns. Be nice, be polite, but cut her out of your life.

I think it's time for a slump buster. Remember we are all allowed one fat chick.

Good luck buddy

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post #39 of 50 Old 12-13-2007, 06:14 AM
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Hang in there man, I've been down that road, with my first wife, including the sleeping with a "friend" and her running up lots of bills. Let me tell you, get through the depression, whatever it takes, you will end up in a better place. I got thru and found myself so much happier after it was over it was unbelievable that I hung on that long(we had a kid and more that made me try and stick it out). Now its 7 yrs later, I just got remarried, relocated, and Life is so good. Hang on!!!!! In fact PM me if ya need more details or advice, anything.

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I agree... going back would be a backwards move.

I dont know the whole story... but from what I read... I'd RUN not walk away as soon as the papers are signed!

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