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post #1 of 34 Old 05-08-2011, 11:12 AM Thread Starter
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919 felt so small

I finally sold my 07 FZ6 and went to get a 919 06 model with only 3k miles on the clock.
What a small feeling bike, i'm only 5'10" but this 919 felt tiny under me compared to the FZ6. The seller conned me a bit by telling me it was in great condition etc, it was not. The motor was vibrating with a lot of tappet noise aswell, it even felt pretty unstable on the road when i tested it.
Anyway i didnt buy it. But the main thing that struck me was how small it felt under me which i didnt like.
So i'm really confused now as this was the type of bike i was thinking to get.
Any owners who feel the same way or is it just a get used to it kind of thing.
I'm seriously thinking of getting a 09 Kawasaki Z1000 now instead or should i go and try another 919 to see if it was just that bike which was a dog.
Any advice would be welcome as i'm now without a ride and need to get sorted soon.
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post #2 of 34 Old 05-08-2011, 11:33 AM
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weird, the 919 is probably one of the most stable bikes i have ever ridden, and its definitely on the "feeling larger" side of the fence for me.

really it all comes down to what you like and what you have experienced before. The 919 is a great bike, but if you dont like it, dont feel the need to buy it! IMO the z1000 is a much smaller feeling bike than the 919, specially the '11

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I owned a 919 and test rode a fz6. The feeling youre having is because the fz6 is taller, get a 919 in good condition and you'll be over it in about 3 minutes.

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I owned a 919 and test rode a fz6. The feeling youre having is because the fz6 is taller, get a 919 in good condition and you'll be over it in about 3 minutes.
i agree with brian here.

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I think the 919 feels small but I am comfortable on it. I sat on a Z1000 and to me it felt larger than the 919. I could not get a test ride so my observation is only from sitting on the bike.

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Some things to consider:
- The 919 is not a 'smaller' bike. Seat height is a little higher, Wheelbase is about an inch longer and it is slightly heavier.
- While the engine noise is in no way louder than similar engines, it is bigger and doesn't have a fairing, etc. to baffle the noise.
- The 919 is incredibly stable and forgiving, but may feel somewhat different because of seating and handlebar differences.

You may want to ride some other naked bikes first and see if the lack of a fairing is giving a false impression.

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Some things to consider:
- The 919 is not a 'smaller' bike. Seat height is a little higher, Wheelbase is about an inch longer and it is slightly heavier.
- While the engine noise is in no way louder than similar engines, it is bigger and doesn't have a fairing, etc. to baffle the noise.
- The 919 is incredibly stable and forgiving, but may feel somewhat different because of seating and handlebar differences.

You may want to ride some other naked bikes first and see if the lack of a fairing is giving a false impression.
ya thats what im thinking was the biggest problem... to go from a fairinged bike do non is gonna be a big difference regardless.

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I got my 919 in 2007. Before that I had a 1998 Triumph Trident 900. When I first got the 919 I had the 'small bike" feeling as well. I figured it was due to the Triumph being heavier. Plus the Triumph was physically bigger too, larger wheelbase as well as overall length & width. And with the 919's taller seat height I felt like I was on a dirt bike almost! At first it felt wierd but having more power & less weight and being able to throw the 919 around easier than the Triumph made me get over it. But, you have to be comfortable with what you ride so ultimately it's up to you if it fits or not.

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Some things to consider:
- The 919 is not a 'smaller' bike. Seat height is a little higher.
I found this statement odd, until I looked up the seat height per the maker. I read the same thing you posted the honda seat sits about a half inch higher. Which is alltogether opposite of what I experienced. The fz6 clearly felt significantly higher, wierd. Also a common gripe in the forums on the fz6 is its too tall. Im baffeled it certainly felt ALOT different than the #'s reflect.

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post #10 of 34 Old 05-08-2011, 12:56 PM
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I know my very first reaction when riding away on the 919 was, "Holy shit this bike feels small."

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Thanks guys for the very useful replies.Good to read it's not just me who thinks it feels small.I'm going to Kawa dealer tommorrow to check their z1000. They got some new 09 models left over at a good price.
When i checked the 919 seat height and the fz6's in the specs they are the same,funny but in reality fz6 is for sure higher.the Z1000 is about 1" higher than the fz6 so will be interesting to see if thats right.Will let u know the outcome.

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post #12 of 34 Old 05-08-2011, 01:37 PM
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Yep - it is a similar size to the 600 Hornet.

With only 3k on the clock there will not be a 'tappet' issue. Most likely just the engine noise, injectors etc on full naked bike right under your helmet.

Stability - tyre pressure, bad rear wheel alignment etc, otherwise it is a stable ride.

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post #13 of 34 Old 05-08-2011, 03:22 PM
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The 919 has a noisy engine, especially when cold. When I first got mine, I asked around and was told it was quite normal.

As others have said, its a very stable and forgiving bike, so the tyres may have been poor or under inflated.

The Z1000 is a hoot to ride and definately something I'd advise you to test ride before buying a 9'ner. I just didn't like its small tank, as I commute and the example I saw was corrosion ridden, only being 6 months old. Mind you, it was a press bike, so who knows who rode it where, it may have even had a trip on a beach for a photo shoot, who knows.

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The 919 feels small to me. I'm 6'1 275 lbs, but it is one of the most comfortable, stable bikes i've owned. The light weight and compactness of the 919 is why it's gonna be a keeper in my ever changing staple of bikes. Not to mention Honda's are bullet proof with proper maintenance.

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I feel like my 919 is small, though it may be because im 6'5"...

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I have 3 ZRX Kawasakis , 2009 K1300GT beemer and a 2008 ZX14 so when I get on the 919 I feel like I am on a dirt bike, The 919 is a 100 lbs lighter than my lightest bike and feels shorter because it turns so quick which could also be the weight because you don't have to man handle it.
The 919 is buzzy compared to my other bikes and down in horsepower but it is not a pooch. Throw some good rubber on it and it becomes a different bike so just like any other bike you make changes to make it better.

While I may not be a Honda lover the 919 can grow on one real easy.

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post #17 of 34 Old 05-08-2011, 06:18 PM
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i can't say much as to the small feeling of a 919, i traded a shadow 1100 for it =P and mine is generally loud (erion pipes, no flapper valve) for me it feels...different than even a half faired bike because there is nothing in front of you. when i put a givi flyscreen on it, i swear it felt like it got way bigger, and next to my friend's (which has no flyscreen, color-matched headlight trim-ring, and lower renthal bars) mine feels like a tank.
if you are thinking of a 919 make sure it is the post 04 with the adjustable forks and bigger fuel tank (i have 02 and can only get about 100-120 miles to the tank)

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04+ is not that big of a deal. adjustibility still suck for both ends. both ends need to be re-worked. all around great bikes. 02-03 are the best looking imho.

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I'm tall and always felt like my 919 fit well. I did think it handled like a smaller bike when I first rode it though, but my experience was with 70's big bikes at the time. The 599 feels very small in comparison.

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if you are thinking of a 919 make sure it is the post 04 with the adjustable forks and bigger fuel tank (i have 02 and can only get about 100-120 miles to the tank)

'02 to '07 tanks are the same




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'02 to '07 tanks are the same
Yep, no difference in fuel tanks throughout the model run. My '02 was good for 200+ miles per tank.

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Yep, no difference in fuel tanks throughout the model run. My '02 was good for 200+ miles per tank.
well that opens up a can of worms for me. my friend's 05 goes way farther on a tank than mine before the light comes on even though i get better calculated milage...guess its time to take a ride till she runs dry to see if that light is super conservative. thanks for correcting that.

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As far as the fuel tank goes, my red 919 can go up until 150-155 miles before the light comes on with mixed city (80%) and highway (20%) rides....

The 9er felt "small" when I first got her and it sure does look small as my missus commented on the first day I got her home compared to my previous Hyosung GT250. Maybe this is because of the lower seat height and a more relaxed riding position...

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well that opens up a can of worms for me. my friend's 05 goes way farther on a tank than mine before the light comes on even though i get better calculated milage...guess its time to take a ride till she runs dry to see if that light is super conservative. thanks for correcting that.
There's been a ton of discussion about fuel economy and low fuel lights if you do a search. My light usually came on between 160-175 and you could go another 50 miles before refueling.

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I feel like my 919 is small, though it may be because im 6'5"...
Good to know I am not the only one pushing 6'5 on the 9'ner...always wondered if I looked stupid riding it...

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well that opens up a can of worms for me. my friend's 05 goes way farther on a tank than mine before the light comes on even though i get better calculated milage...guess its time to take a ride till she runs dry to see if that light is super conservative. thanks for correcting that.
My father gets better mileage than I do, but he rides more conservatively and I commute (so heavy traffic riding) It depends on your riding style and even tyre pressures could play a role. Also things such as a clean air filter, good spark plugs etc. all play a part.

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I traded in my VTX 1300C for the 919. Yes, it feels small!

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what, am I the only one who went from a small bike (rebel 250!) to the 919? When I first got on it I thought it was huge, but fit perfectly, since I always felt cramped on the rebel.

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Is the FZ6 wider? That would make it feel "taller" than a 919 because your legs would have to stretch farther to reach the ground. Seat height isn't always the only consideration in how tall a bike feels.

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Good to know I am not the only one pushing 6'5 on the 9'ner...always wondered if I looked stupid riding it...
I though i was alone haha. Yeah i look goofy as hell on it but it doesnt bother me

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what, am I the only one who went from a small bike (rebel 250!) to the 919? When I first got on it I thought it was huge, but fit perfectly, since I always felt cramped on the rebel.
ninja 250 here and i was scared shitless at first being near 1k cc lol. just had to learn the right mentality and act accordingly.

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Maybe its the position of the foot pegs - they kind of tuck you in, which can makeit feel smaller?

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After not feeling completely at home on the 919 i decided i'd try a few other machines out. First a Z1000 then a Z750 (terrible) worst seat i ever sat on a bike.
Then i tried a CB1000r which was a revelation. Good upright riding position felt quite high but good all the same, footpegs slightly too high but forgiveable due to the fantastic engine response and handling. Gearchange was silky smooth and the whole package felt great and so well made. Never rode a bike which felt so well balanced and easy straight off.
So i think i will have to lash out extra cash for one of these instead.
Interested to hear if any others have one or tried one and their opinions.
A CB1000r that is.

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I had the 919 & a SV650 both in the garage last year. Once moving I could not tell a difference. Pushing them around the garage, I did notice it a little bit.

I found myself NEVER riding the SV and finally sold it last fall. After owning & loving 5 SV650's the 919 has changed my mind on the little SV. I don't think I will own another one again.


BTW I go at least 210 miles before I get gas and usually put about 4.5 gallons in.

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